[HN Gopher] Daniel Mendelsohn on the Odyssey
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Daniel Mendelsohn on the Odyssey
Author : drdee
Score : 20 points
Date : 2021-08-15 06:02 UTC (1 days ago)
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| surlyadopter wrote:
| If anyone is interested in more in depth examinations of parts of
| the Odyssey I would recommend 'Watch What You Hear: Penelope's
| Dream Of Twenty Geese' by Edward Teach(The Last Psychiarist).
| https://www.amazon.com/Watch-What-You-Hear-Penelopes/dp/1734...
| It is a a "rigorous psychoanalytic interpretation of the Homeric
| dream of twenty geese" and although can be tough to get into I
| dound it a very rewarding mental journey.
| ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
| I enjoyed the read. Thanks!
|
| Never been a huge fan of the classics. Not because I think them
| impractical, but because someone has told me that I have to read
| them, and I have a _serious_ "up yours" streak to my personality.
| It's ameliorated, as I've gotten older, but I didn't appreciate
| having reading shoved in my face by people that I considered
| "bitter old people."
|
| I'm getting my comeuppance, now. I'm the millennial's "bitter old
| person."
|
| I guess there's a classic that talks about that...
| TedDoesntTalk wrote:
| Rebelling for the sake of rebellion can be blinding. We all
| have issues to work through. I wish you luck yours.
| ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
| Oh, those days are loooong gone...
| uberdru wrote:
| The greatest book never written. Reading the Odyssey is very like
| reading Dante and Shakespeare, in that it is a lifelong pursuit.
| It gets better as your learn about the oral tradition, the Homer
| question. Read Victor Berard and Julian Jaynes. Read Omeros by
| Derek Walcott. You can meditate you whole life on how to
| translate one word, "polymetis". In my experience, the
| translator's choice with that one word determines the trajectory
| (and quality) of the epic in their hands.
|
| Our whole culture is so shot through with the effects of these
| works that it is virtually incomprehensible, even to those who
| devote their lives to the study. I guess my point is that it is
| not like reading a 'novel'. It is a work that has shaped, and
| actively shapes, us as humans.
| 725686 wrote:
| I generally find it very difficult to read/enjoy old classics...
| I much prefer the analyses of those text that explain their
| relevance for our culture and the context in which they were
| written. I will make some time to read this article.
| lostlogin wrote:
| > I generally find it very difficult to read/enjoy old classics
|
| I found a 'top 100 books of all time' list and decided there
| were a few near the top I should read/reread. I'm pretty sure I
| had never read any of them. I knew the author and I had a vague
| idea of the plot and characters.
|
| Every single one of them was excellent to the point where I
| need to reread them again.
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