[HN Gopher] There Is a Tennis Ball Shortage Too Now
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       There Is a Tennis Ball Shortage Too Now
        
       Author : elsewhen
       Score  : 113 points
       Date   : 2021-08-13 13:06 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | nitwit005 wrote:
       | I routinely pick up tennis balls next to the court near me and
       | throw them into the dog park. Now I know I could have made tens
       | of dollars if I'd just hoarded them.
        
         | creaghpatr wrote:
         | If you're using them to actually play tennis, they don't work
         | nearly as well after a couple uses.
        
           | actually_a_dog wrote:
           | They're not even great for dogs: https://www.akc.org/expert-
           | advice/health/are-tennis-balls-sa...
        
             | nemo44x wrote:
             | We use balls that are made for togs and wound t be suitable
             | for a game of tennis. However, after 1 use he isn't
             | interested in the ball anymore and insists on a new ball
             | next time.
        
       | nostromo wrote:
       | Next time you're about to complain about farm subsidies, take a
       | moment to appreciate that the US makes more food than it needs
       | and we don't depend on imports from China to put food on the
       | table.
        
         | convolvatron wrote:
         | that might be true independent of farm subsidies. we don't
         | really know. it is pretty clear that there are government
         | programs being used to buy votes. which is a pretty stupid way
         | to spend public money.
        
           | unanswered wrote:
           | As opposed to all of those dollars flowing into extremely
           | republican-leaning cities... Oh wait.
        
             | namdnay wrote:
             | I always though cities were net contributors to
             | taxation/redistribution?
        
               | adventured wrote:
               | You mean before we count their high environmental cost?
               | Cities are higher net tax contributors due to population
               | density. If we're going to fairly consider the equation,
               | we have to include their high emissions over the decades
               | and the price of that.
               | 
               | Fossil fuel based electricity & heat production is by far
               | the worst offender, 1/3 of all emissions. To say nothing
               | of the food requirements of cities (agriculture alone
               | being ~11% of emissions), which are potent emissions
               | contributors.
               | 
               | As such, should cities be made to pay for the vast
               | destruction they've caused over time? Across a century,
               | US cities were heavily utilizing cheap coal power to
               | sustain their elevated population density. They took a
               | very low cost, low penalty ride on helping to destroy the
               | planet.
               | 
               | Global climate change didn't happen in a day. There's a
               | fair question of distribution of cost, reparations for
               | the fossil fuel consumption & use of cities in the form
               | of a tax to cover their century of past sins.
               | 
               | A person might retort: yes, but, cities are more
               | efficient than rural arrangements pound for pound. The
               | issue is total emissions output, in the discussion of
               | total cost (net tax +/- contribution equation), which is
               | what the threat is with climate change. Low population
               | rural areas can't destroy the planet with their resource
               | demands, only large populations can do that.
               | 
               | Then a person might retort: but what else were all of
               | those people in cities going to do? Not exist at all?
               | Starve? Go without electricity? I'd suggest environmental
               | reparations via taxation for the net damage the cities
               | did cause (if we're looking at fairly balancing the net
               | tax contribution equation, that is; if their inflated tax
               | net gets counted courtesy of elevated population density,
               | then we must also consider their environmental cost).
        
               | megablast wrote:
               | > You mean before we count their high environmental cost?
               | 
               | Are you saying those people in cities, spread out over
               | the countryside instead would have a lower environmental
               | cost??? Absolutely not.
               | 
               | > Across a century, US cities were heavily utilizing
               | cheap coal power to sustain their elevated population
               | density.
               | 
               | Whereas the country side used what for power?? Magic??
               | 
               | > Low population rural areas can't destroy the planet
               | with their resource demands, only large populations can
               | do that.
               | 
               | The problem is not cities then. The problem is people.
               | Most of our current problems are due to too many people.
               | 
               | And yes, more people spread over a larger area are would
               | be worse.
        
             | convolvatron wrote:
             | i was very careful to phrase that in a way that was
             | neurtral to which party was paying off whom
             | 
             | its a terrible waste either way
        
         | fullstop wrote:
         | We pay farmers to _not_ produce crops.
        
         | adrr wrote:
         | Can't really ship perishables from China. What's the shelf life
         | of lettuce or strawberries? One week at most? Other crops are
         | protected by tariffs or pest quarantines like sugar, garlic,
         | onions, citrus fruits.
        
         | shalmanese wrote:
         | Can you point to a country in 2020 that was affected by food
         | shortages because they depended on food imports from China?
         | 
         | Also, the US food supply chain was disrupted in 2020 despite
         | not relying on imports.
        
         | actually_a_dog wrote:
         | Is it still okay if I complain about the colossal amount of
         | food _waste_ that takes place in the US?
        
           | handrous wrote:
           | Food waste's a function of food prices. Raising prices is how
           | you reduce it.
           | 
           | We have a lot of waste, because food is cheap.
        
           | coding123 wrote:
           | Over half of the fresh fruit and veggies at the grocery store
           | is thrown out. I wouldn't be surprised it it was more like
           | 95% for specific foods. I have a feeling that onions don't
           | have this problem, but the Avocados, I see like maybe the
           | same batch sitting for 2 days and on the 3rd you can't even
           | pick one up because it's so ripe it's basically mush. Then
           | salad bags, I imagine that shredded lettuce doesn't go to
           | waste (it's popular for tacos), but pretty much the rest is
           | probably thrown out.
           | 
           | What's the solution? I know that grocery stores make
           | Guacamole that sits in the fridge and that helps it age
           | slower, but the vast majority of the Avocados are just
           | wasted.
        
       | cableshaft wrote:
       | Here's another one I just spotted: a dog shortage[1]. Good thing
       | I guess, since we don't have the tennis balls to give them.
       | 
       | [1]: https://www.axios.com/the-great-american-dog-
       | shortage-632187...
        
         | h2odragon wrote:
         | People are going nuts about "yoga goats" too; bucklings this
         | year have better prospects than ever before.
        
       | doopy1 wrote:
       | There's also an increasing shortage of rational thought.
        
       | charles_f wrote:
       | > if tennis balls are hard to find in stores now, I will buy a
       | case of 24 cans online
       | 
       | Standard panick reaction that's exacerbating the problem. People
       | are piling up on all sorts of stuff right now. I needed new tyres
       | for my mountain bike, largely impossible to find a few months
       | ago. A neighbour told me "oh that's fine I can resell you a pair,
       | I bought 6 a few weeks ago just in case" . Pair up tight supply
       | chain and people virtually increasing the demand to stock up in
       | case the offer runs dry, and you obtain magic.
        
         | admn2 wrote:
         | Seems very true. When mason jars were in low supply, all it
         | took was a quick look to Ebay to see storage lockers full of
         | them to understand part of the problem.
        
         | invalidOrTaken wrote:
         | > exacerbating the problem
         | 
         | Problem for whom?
        
         | lexapro wrote:
         | Well, that's exactly what happened with the toilet paper, too.
         | A few people bought more in fear of some worst-case scenario -
         | and then everyone else noticed the supply dwindling and did the
         | same to avoid not being able to buy any when their own, normal
         | stock runs out.
        
         | booleanbetrayal wrote:
         | We are obsessed with manufacturing supply chain bullwhips.
         | Bracing for impact again. re:
         | https://finance.yahoo.com/news/massive-china-port-shutdown-r...
        
           | charles_f wrote:
           | Oh wow, you made my day so much worse with just one link!
        
             | kirubakaran wrote:
             | Your day was already as bad as it was going to be. You just
             | didn't know about it ;)
        
       | BurningFrog wrote:
       | This is pretty weird if you know some economics.
       | 
       | On a free market, there are only very temporary shortages or
       | surpluses. Those conditions morph quickly into equilibrium with
       | raised or lower prices.
       | 
       | The spring 2020 TP shortage illustrates this. Because if the
       | pandemic, there were "profiteering" laws in effect that made
       | price hikes illegal, so we got empty shelves instead.
       | 
       | Pretty sure there are no such laws for tennis balls now. So
       | what's going on?
       | 
       | My best guess is that retailers don't want to take the PR hit of
       | raising prices for something that should be resolved quickly
       | enough?
        
       | redisman wrote:
       | More seriously there seems to be many parts shortages. I have a
       | big crack in my windshield but there are no replacements
       | available until some unknown date
        
       | Jeff_Brown wrote:
       | Here here. When the pandemic started i prepared for food
       | shortages. As it turns out it's been psychologically bad but
       | physically nothing like the disaster it could have been.
        
       | unanswered wrote:
       | Never forget that this was done to us intentionally. The virus
       | was unexpected; but the reaction was deliberate.
        
         | charles_f wrote:
         | Based on what source are you saying that exactly?
         | 
         | Those shortages have been explained for a while by a
         | combination of overlean JIT manufacturing(1) and supply chain
         | issues.
         | 
         | (1) https://www.supplychaindive.com/news/lean-supply-chain-
         | jit-i...
        
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       | amelius wrote:
       | Does this also hold for padel (not paddle) balls?
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Padel_(sport)
        
       | underseacables wrote:
       | This is serious. Think of the dogs!
        
         | fsagx wrote:
         | My dog has been stockpiling for years. She's not worried. I'm
         | more concerned what the old folks will put on the feet of their
         | walkers.
        
           | valleyjo wrote:
           | Savage lol
        
           | underseacables wrote:
           | Same. We have a strategic supply basket full of tennis balls
           | for our three mouth breathers.
        
             | nemo44x wrote:
             | My dog won't play with used balls. They have to be new or
             | he's not interested. We keep a bag of "used" balls and drop
             | them off at the dog park after awhile and they seem to get
             | used.
             | 
             | God this dog is spoiled.
        
       | mrfusion wrote:
       | If this is real give pickleball a shot. It's surprisingly fun and
       | you can start having competitive games right away.
       | 
       | A lot carries over from tennis too so you'd have a good head
       | start.
        
         | jhbadger wrote:
         | Although I'd imagine pickleballs are also made in Asia and thus
         | subject to similar shipping issues, but maybe they last longer
         | than tennis balls so you need fewer of them?
        
           | JeffL wrote:
           | The "good" Pickleballs, Franklin and Dura, seem to last a few
           | to several days before cracking or warping while the "bad"
           | ones that nobody wants to use because they are softer seem to
           | last forever. It's a bit better than tennis where people want
           | a new can every time they play. No shortage in Pickleballs
           | that I've seen so far.
        
         | yuy910616 wrote:
         | I will die on this hill but I'm never trying pickleball. Silly
         | reason - tennis looks cool, look at Roger. Pickle ball
         | looks...less cool
        
           | mrfusion wrote:
           | Seriously give it a try! My uncle tried to get me to play for
           | years and I thought it was silly. But it's the most fun I've
           | ever had and I'm in the best shape of my life.
        
         | syedkarim wrote:
         | I'm a former recreational tennis player and I previously
         | thought that pickleball was lame. Now I only play pickleball
         | (mostly singles) and sold off my tennis racquets. After two
         | years of playing, I still can't figure out why 4.0-level
         | pickleball is way more fun than 4.0-level tennis. If you play
         | singles pickleball and live in the northwest Chicago suburbs,
         | hit me up!
        
           | mrfusion wrote:
           | Awesome. Hit me up if you're in Florida!
        
       | xyzelement wrote:
       | I grew up in the USSR in the 80s, so my view of what a shortage
       | actually feels like are quite different.
       | 
       | Since the pandemic, there are 3 shortages that were in the news
       | that were relevant to my family: toilet paper, chips/automotive,
       | and ammunition (my father in law and I got into target shooting
       | during the pandemic)
       | 
       | I would say the max impact of all these things was: you had to
       | work a LITTLE harder, pay a LITTLE more, and wait a LITTLE longer
       | to get what you wanted.
       | 
       | For example, in USSR I remember wiping my ass with cut-up
       | newspaper for months at a time. That's what a TP shortage /
       | deficit is. Over the last year, the max I had to deal with was
       | going to a second store and not being able to buy lots and lots
       | at once.
       | 
       | We ended up having to buy a car this summer. Shortage manifested
       | in two ways - some trims/models were not available. IE - you
       | could still get a car at any point, just may not be the exact one
       | you want. We ended up ordering one because we cared about
       | something specific and despite warning, we picked it up in a few
       | weeks.
       | 
       | In contrast, my dad had to wait something like 10 years to get
       | his Lada Niva.
       | 
       | What this means to me is our supply chains are INCREDIBLY
       | resilient. The fact that these things basically translated into
       | mild inconveniences is quite impressive.
        
         | oblio wrote:
         | Hey, more than cut up! Crumpled! :-D
        
         | contravariant wrote:
         | Not sure there ever was a real shortage in toilet paper. I mean
         | sure the stores ran out at some point, but that's mostly
         | because you can only realistically have so many toilet paper in
         | the store at once, so if people buy more for whatever insane
         | reason then it's going to run out soon. The supply didn't ever
         | run into any issues as far as I can tell.
        
           | javagram wrote:
           | There was still supply of "toilet paper" but not of the kind
           | that was sold in the store. Normally large amounts of
           | commercial paper was sold but that wasn't in grocery stores
           | and sales stopped because of offices closing. Things got
           | figured out eventually both as panic buying subsided and some
           | commercial paper (single rolls, etc) was diverted to the
           | grocery store supply chain.
        
             | scott_s wrote:
             | Correct; there was a _market shift_ , where all of the
             | demand for commercial toilet paper went to consumer toilet
             | paper. Because of that shift, there was a real shortage in
             | consumer toilet paper. Unfortunately, the myth that this
             | shortage was entirely an induced panic seems to have caught
             | on. For more, see https://www.vox.com/the-
             | goods/2020/4/3/21206942/toilet-paper...
        
           | raspasov wrote:
           | There might have been a short-term panic over-buying plus the
           | fact that everybody all of a sudden was staying home (and
           | *ahem*, going to the toilet at home more) as opposed to going
           | to the office. That's just a hypothesis, I haven't looked at
           | any data. But your point is essentially correct, I assume it
           | just takes a bit of time to shift the supply from
           | commercial/business channels (delivering to office buildings
           | in the city) to consumer ones (delivering to stores like
           | Costco, Walmart, etc).
        
             | FearlessNebula wrote:
             | Do people really go at the office on a regular enough basis
             | to have an impact like that on the supply chain?
        
               | scott_s wrote:
               | Yes.
        
             | bdcravens wrote:
             | I don't believe it's that pragmatic. There's a great sense
             | of the unknown, as if society will totally shut down. After
             | all, you don't see people shop the same way when they plan
             | to be home for a while (vacations, kids not going to school
             | during the summer, etc)
        
               | lazide wrote:
               | It can be both. I personally think of uncertainty like
               | the exponent of the function for buying. More
               | uncertainty, higher value exponentially.
        
             | klyrs wrote:
             | > ... staying home (and _ahem_ , going to the toilet at
             | home more) as opposed to going to the office.
             | 
             | From what I understand, this was the real driver of the
             | shortage. The toilet paper manufacturers had to retool for
             | home-size rolls to meet demand, where they were previously
             | making tons of office-size rolls. Highly efficient
             | manufacturing processes don't turn on a dime.
        
               | lazide wrote:
               | Also, most offices buy super terrible toilet paper (like
               | 1 ply, thinner than a tissue). I don't know if it is to
               | discourage pooping on the company dime or what, but I
               | don't know if any individuals that would be ok with
               | buying that for their own use. So retooling in more than
               | just roll size/length probably also needed to happen.
        
               | dmoy wrote:
               | > I don't know if it is to discourage pooping on the
               | company dime or what
               | 
               | It's because it doesn't clog toilets as much. If you
               | stock two ply in an office, people will do unspeakable
               | things with their literal shit, and it's just not good
               | times.
               | 
               | I worked in one place that switched briefly to more home-
               | style twoply, and we _very_ quickly switched back. It
               | wasn 't because of the cost. It was because of the poop.
               | Everywhere. All the poop.
        
               | syshum wrote:
               | In some cases that is result of super super low flow
               | fixtures + bad pressure.
               | 
               | Commercial fixtures need higher pressure than a home
               | fixture, and sometimes the office building can not
               | provide proper pressure, combined with wanting under a
               | gallon of water per flush and well bad things happen
        
               | syshum wrote:
               | The shortages came too quickly to claim it was just WFH
               | unless people generally only buy enough to get by for a
               | week at a time..
               | 
               | I generally restock on paper goods like that ever 3-6
               | months, not weekly...
        
               | scott_s wrote:
               | Even if people bought for just the next week, they had to
               | buy _more_ , because now they were using their toilet at
               | home, exclusively. Everyone buying more at once caused a
               | real shortage.
        
               | [deleted]
        
               | klyrs wrote:
               | I shouldn't have said _the_ driver. The initial panic-
               | buys were definitely what kicked it off. The need for
               | retooling is what sustained the shortage for months
               | despite rationing by grocery stores.
        
               | ghaff wrote:
               | As I recall, even though I normally keep pretty well
               | stocked with paper goods and other staples, I did a
               | shopping trip right before everything went a bit crazy
               | and definitely picked up some additional reserves just in
               | case. It certainly wasn't prepping levels but enough to
               | throw off stocking levels if everyone did what I did
               | during the first month or three. I still have a 10 pound
               | bag of flour which I would normally never buy but it's
               | what was there of my preferred brand at one point when
               | shelves were a bit scant.
        
               | lazide wrote:
               | A lot of people (especially in apartments), do buy a week
               | at a time - not the weirdest or craziest thing I guess,
               | but definitely not something I would be comfortable
               | doing!
        
               | SECProto wrote:
               | If everyone buys for a month at a time, it would be
               | spread out over that month. With lockdowns, people bought
               | more than usual, and everyone was trying to buy it at the
               | same time rather than spread out. And then people heard
               | about shortages and it just reinforced it - people who
               | still had a month worth at home would throw another
               | package in the care "just in case".
        
           | jessaustin wrote:
           | The rational reaction to the TP event was to install one of
           | those bidet seats on one's toilet. I haven't bought a roll
           | since.
        
             | rolleiflex wrote:
             | Except right at the same time the bidet seats were also out
             | of stock everywhere. I scored one by being slightly earlier
             | to wake up to what's happening, but I know many friends
             | that weren't able to pick one up.
        
           | pedrocr wrote:
           | Having gone through that on the supply side it was a
           | manufactured crisis. When news organizations were still
           | waiting for the first COVID19 cases to happen in their
           | country they would run fluff stories from other places. A
           | very common one was the toilet paper shortage. They probably
           | got some intern to write it sloppily so in some it wasn't
           | even clear that the photos and examples were from a different
           | country. That drove people to rush to stores and hoard
           | creating a self-fulfilling phrophecy as no grocery store will
           | keep too many days of stock of toilet paper as it has too
           | much volume. That this then happened in more places made it
           | even more of a story and it sort of snowballed.
           | 
           | The fact that people were now at home and using different
           | types of paper than what offices use was as far as I can tell
           | a very small factor, it was mostly panic hoarding.
        
         | paganel wrote:
         | > For example, in USSR I remember wiping my ass with cut-up
         | newspaper for months at a time.
         | 
         | As a Romanian who grew up as a kid in the '80s and the '90s I'm
         | sort of glad that this was a shared Eastern-European
         | experience, it's something that people from the other side of
         | the wall will most probably never understand completely. When I
         | was spending the summer at my grandparents me and my brother
         | were sometime wiping our asses off with pages taken from "Munca
         | de Partid" (roughly translated as "Party Work"), which was the
         | official magazine of the Romanian Communist Party's Central
         | Committee. Our granddad had been a communist mayor in the
         | village and he had almost the entire collection of those
         | magazines.
         | 
         | [1] https://www.cosminnasui.com/wp-
         | content/uploads/2014/01/Munca...
        
           | nickpp wrote:
           | I still wonder what effect all that led (from the newspaper
           | ink) will have on our rectums' health.
        
         | vishnugupta wrote:
         | Similar experience.
         | 
         | In India I tagged along with my father when he applied for a
         | physical phone connection when I was in class 8. By the time
         | the application made it through the bureaucratic labyrinthine
         | and all sorts of hurdles I was in class 10.
         | 
         | So now a days when I see someone rant for 2 month wait period
         | for a car I silently laugh. The current generation though is
         | growing up getting conditioned to instant gratification.
         | 
         | Listening to my favourite song for me, while growing up, meant
         | convincing my father to give me money, walking to a cassette
         | store, wading through their catalogue and finally get it. So
         | for me waiting comes naturally. In a way for my generation (and
         | earlier) waiting is second nature. Wait in line for movie
         | tickets, at bank counter, ration stores, just to name a few.
        
           | curiousgal wrote:
           | Having grown up in a Third World country makes almost every
           | issue people around me complain about nontrivial. But that
           | doesn't mean that they are. Just because others had/have it
           | harder doesn't make those issues any less valid.
        
             | vishnugupta wrote:
             | > ...doesn't make those issues any less valid.
             | 
             | Certainly, the issues are indeed valid for them and nothing
             | to be scoffed at.
             | 
             | What is fascinating about India of my growing up years was
             | that most of the scarcity was artificial, mostly due to
             | government regulations and policies. So money didn't speed
             | up things in a big way. But all that has changed
             | unrecognisably now. Now, if one has money there's almost
             | nothing that can't be gotten.
        
           | u801e wrote:
           | > when I see someone rant for 2 month wait period for a car I
           | silently laugh.
           | 
           | Things improve, so people's expectations change. People from
           | generations ago could "silently laugh" at someone complaining
           | about a missed flight and a long layover when they had to
           | travel by sea instead of air.
        
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         | SV_BubbleTime wrote:
         | You are just a little early.
         | 
         | TP and ammo were user-caused panics. Superficial.
         | 
         | Microchip/Atmel just gave me 50 week lead times on really
         | common chips. My products use these common chips, so do a TON
         | of other things. If you can't buy a tooshbrush or a thermostat
         | in a few months, you might not realize it's because of chip
         | shortage or containers.
         | 
         | I think things are going to get worse. Our supply chains aren't
         | resilient, more than they are so large it takes a lot/longer
         | time to see effects.
         | 
         | I think we're going to hit the peak of the bullwhip soon and
         | it's going to surprise a lot of people what shutting the world
         | down for almost 2 years will do.
        
           | cascom wrote:
           | It seems like ammo has been in experiencing semi-perpetual
           | issues for the past 12+ years
        
             | SV_BubbleTime wrote:
             | That's not unfair. The biggest "real" one I can think of
             | was Sandy Hook, the biggest "fake" (consumer caused and
             | perpetuated) was the 2016 election, after Trump won, 22lr
             | ammo was impossible to find. Gun store talk is always bad
             | (said as a gun guy that doesn't like gun store bullshit)
             | but this was on a whole different level.
             | 
             | This latest... similar, but worse obviously. At least there
             | is a real world event tied to it.
             | 
             | It's coming down, but I feel like between inflation and
             | commodity prices we aren't going to see pre-panic prices
             | ever again. Extremely skeptical I'll be able to get 1k of
             | 9mm delivered to my door under $250 going forward let alone
             | the previous $160.
             | 
             | It's a larger condition that there is distrust of
             | government, the spread of bullshit at light speeds,
             | diminishing personal freedoms, and a media cheering it all
             | on. So I get why people are hording bullets a bit, but it's
             | funny that actual good defensive ammo isn't more sought
             | after. Just the cheap training stuff.
        
               | newsclues wrote:
               | Ammo is weird because you have the government and
               | consumer markets. We only see shortages for consumers.
               | 
               | High prices and a larger market should attract increased
               | manufacturing capacity.
               | 
               | Could be interesting for a new highly automated robotic
               | factory to bring down costs?
        
               | beerandt wrote:
               | Ammo is a government first market, not a parallel market.
               | 
               | Factories generally have to fill their government orders
               | first, then sell govt runs 2nds/rejects (in military
               | calibers) to consumers, and then manufacture consumer
               | specific rounds with surplus factory capacity.
               | 
               | Automation at factories to this point has generally
               | resulted in lower quality products. People still want it
               | because it's cheap, but there's a balance between price
               | and how bad of a product people will tolerate.
        
               | SV_BubbleTime wrote:
               | As far as automation and larger throughput, the machine
               | exist, but at the scale of the market under normal
               | conditions, it doesn't make sense to plan on panics. At
               | least it didn't traditionally.
               | 
               | If Federal or Sellier invest in a n% more machines now,
               | they will be a year or two out, and who knows what the
               | market will look like then? Under Trump, the market was
               | fairly slow and these companies would have had too much
               | capacity for their sales.
               | 
               | Normally, I'm told the ammo companies like to plan
               | perfectly filling one shift. Then on panics being able to
               | run 3 shifts a day (which they all are now). Being set up
               | to run your 10 big machines for 24hr at a time is a
               | better plan than 30 machines and 20 normally sitting
               | idle, because in the scenario you COULD run 30 machines
               | at 24hr, you are going to run out of components anyhow.
               | 
               | That is another issue, it isn't the assembly that is the
               | ultimate bottleneck, almost powder comes out of maybe
               | four places in the world, same for primers. Right now as
               | I understand, it's really a primer shortage, but no on is
               | sitting on mountains of spare powder either.
               | 
               | I've had 20k primers on order for 9 months now. I don't
               | expect to see them anytime soon.
        
           | neither_color wrote:
           | This is true. I see a lot of comments that turn this into a
           | philosophical debate but not enough actionable talk. Earlier
           | this summer I wanted to buy a graphics card, so I spent weeks
           | following discord "drop" servers where people were running
           | scripts checking inventories of every online store and
           | sending out alerts as soon as, say, Best Buy restocks Nvidia
           | cards. Naturally these would sell out instantly and/or
           | websites would crash from thousands of gamers/miners/scalpers
           | ALL trying to buy something at once.
           | 
           | During this experience I had the morbid thought that we're
           | only a a natural/human disaster away from having to do the
           | same for more necessary things. Get familiar with web
           | scraping or buying communities of things you need while you
           | can.
        
         | ozim wrote:
         | In absolute terms you are right.
         | 
         | In relative terms well in east block in 80s you were not
         | expecting to have anything on the shelves when you went to the
         | shop. You were expecting to wipe with newspaper for rest of
         | your life and sometimes if you are lucky get rolls of TP.
         | 
         | When we live nowadays, we plan that we go to the shop and we
         | will have it.
         | 
         | Like a car example, your father was not planning a road trip
         | next year because he knew he is not going to get a car.
         | 
         | Nowadays people might plan a road trip make arrangements and
         | then be surprised by car shortage - who is losing more? I
         | expect that person who made arrangements for a road trip and
         | then got nothing because there are no ICUs to make cars.
        
           | xyzelement wrote:
           | On one level I agree with you: happiness = reality -
           | expectations.
           | 
           | However what I am saying is that we don't actually have real
           | impact on our lives today. From what I can tell, nobody
           | actually failed to get a car and had to cancel their road
           | trip (to use your example)
        
             | bdcravens wrote:
             | Tangent, but wouldn't it be happiness = expections -
             | reality?
        
               | sk5t wrote:
               | No, high but unmet expectations are the opposite of
               | happiness.
        
           | raspasov wrote:
           | Perhaps surprised that they can't make the trip in the car
           | with the specifically selected Premium Leather Seats and the
           | Piano Black trim within the next 2 weeks? :)
           | 
           | In all seriousness, that's not entirely true. From first
           | person accounts I've heard, in the early 80s and throughout
           | the 70s everything was more or less OK in the Soviet block.
           | Of course the selection was not as great as in the West, but
           | essential 20th century conveniences were available. In the
           | late 80s things really started to fall apart and it became
           | painfully obvious that their economic model is not
           | competitive and ultimately unsustainable.
        
         | KozmoNau7 wrote:
         | As an observation, we have become extremely accustomed to the
         | unprecedented easy with which we can buy things, from a
         | gigantic selection of vendors, levels of quality and design,
         | and other (real or artificial) differentiators.
         | 
         | Now that this comfortable situation is starting to unravel even
         | slightly, the reaction is one of incredulous disbelief. "Surely
         | this can't be happening, we live in prosperous times!" seems to
         | be the gist of a lot of people's reactions.
         | 
         | We have become so used to (near-)instant gratification, that
         | maybe we need to take a step back and recalibrate our desires,
         | demands and expectations.
         | 
         | I'm glad my family has always had a modest outlook and ability
         | to comfortably live within our means, often finding creative
         | solutions when money was a bit short.
         | 
         | It has ingrained in me that compromise is not a hateful thing,
         | realistic expectations make everything more manageable. For
         | instance, I don't hold the specific car I own* to be some
         | essential part of my identity or image. I take the more
         | practical view that if it performs the tasks I need and meets
         | an acceptable level of quality and economy, I am satisfied.
         | Then it doesn't matter if it's a Mercedes, a Toyota or a KIA.
         | If someone looks down on me or thinks less of me because they
         | don't agree with my choice, then that is their problem, not
         | mine.
         | 
         | * I don't own one right now, but it goes for any other
         | possession, really.
         | 
         | Moderation needs to come back into fashion, in a big way.
        
           | SubiculumCode wrote:
           | Is there a button for, I don't agree 100% but your comment
           | shouldn't be gray?
        
             | KozmoNau7 wrote:
             | People _really_ don 't like having their overconsumption
             | and shallow consumerism-based self-images pointed out.
        
               | squarefoot wrote:
               | And some of them make money out of it; some probably read
               | also HN. Upvoted, of course.
        
         | syshum wrote:
         | >>What this means to me is
         | 
         | What this means to me is capitalism is awesome, and people
         | attempting to destroy it or replace it would rather have the
         | world you describe from the USSR...
         | 
         | Remember kids, with capitalism you some times have bread lines,
         | with socialism you some times have bread....
        
           | squarefoot wrote:
           | Capitalism is not bad per se, but capitalism without control
           | can be disastrous. We have not yet reached the point in which
           | corporations took over on governments; the process already
           | started, but the complete takeover at global scale will need
           | some time, from several decades to a couple centuries or so.
           | When it will happen, living under socialism or capitalism
           | won't be that different anymore for those who are not part of
           | the elite.
        
             | syshum wrote:
             | Corporations are not capitalism... Corporation are
             | fictitious legal entities created by government. With out
             | government there can be no corporations.
             | 
             | Corporatism is not "capitalism without control", Corportism
             | is the direct result of governments picking winners and
             | loosers in the market place. It is the direct result of
             | government putting their hands on the scale of the market.
             | 
             | So expecting government to solve the problem it created is
             | foolish. I have no love for corporation, or corporatism.
             | you want to eliminate that I am all for it. However lets
             | stop blaming capitalism for the problems created by
             | government
        
               | squarefoot wrote:
               | That's the "without control" I was referring to.
        
         | code_duck wrote:
         | Most Americans have absolutely no idea what it is like to
         | endure that sort of hardship. I mean, in the most extreme
         | examples I know adults who act like they're going to starve
         | because their peas were touching their potatoes.
        
           | midev wrote:
           | > Most Americans have absolutely no idea what it is like to
           | endure that sort of hardship
           | 
           | Which is great! Despite the flaws of capitalism, it's
           | literally the point! As supply chains were impacted, new
           | businesses and solutions filled the void. Given the vast
           | amount of competition in things like toilet paper,
           | automotive, etc, "shortages" just meant not getting your
           | favorite brand for a few weeks.
           | 
           | > I know adults who act like they're going to starve because
           | their peas were touching their potatoes.
           | 
           | I would take this over the horror shows of communism any day.
           | 
           | It's never a knock to say "your country is so good you've
           | never had the massive hardships we have had!"
        
             | code_duck wrote:
             | Yes, my criticism is not directed towards the effectiveness
             | of the supply chain. It's true that we are mostly rich with
             | consumer goods. However there are also numerous very
             | serious problems with how we live in the United States,
             | such as sustainability, even distribution of resources,
             | efficiency and waste.
             | 
             | My point was that people in the United States do not have
             | experience dealing with even very minor hardships
             | effectively. If they were presented with truly difficult
             | physical situations similar to what people in many parts of
             | the world deal with frequently, they would not be able to
             | handle it effectively on a number of levels.
        
               | midev wrote:
               | > My point was that people in the United States do not
               | have experience dealing with even very minor hardships
               | effectively
               | 
               | Again, yes! Due to our success! These aren't at all a
               | knock on American's. It's what every generation of ours
               | has fought for. An easier life for our children.
               | 
               | I am very very very grateful that my son does not have to
               | deal with what people in other parts of the world deal
               | with. I love that the idea of having no running water,
               | defecating in the streets, surrounded by dead bodies is a
               | completely foreign concept to him. That he wouldn't know
               | how to deal with such a situation. And I hope his
               | children have it even easier. That we're so wealthy we
               | have UBI, and they can study art and music, and want for
               | nothing.
        
               | code_duck wrote:
               | Sure, that's all true. My concerns are somewhat unrelated
               | to celebrating our success, though. I don't believe
               | Americans would have the experience, social customs,
               | physical stamina, emotional fortitude or knowledge to
               | survive reasonably well if conditions took a serious turn
               | for the worse.
        
               | hn_throwaway_99 wrote:
               | > That we're so wealthy we have UBI, and they can study
               | art and music, and want for nothing.
               | 
               | I'm not going to romanticize Communist shortages, but I
               | think this sentence shows a fundamental misunderstanding
               | of human nature, and highlights the primary problem with
               | capitalism. The idea that if we have UBI, that we're
               | suddenly going to be a nation of poets, artists and
               | philosophers is a utopian fantasy in my opinion.
               | 
               | I know more than a couple trust fund kids. They literally
               | do "want for nothing", and they are universally
               | miserable. Anecdata, sure, but even when you look at
               | trust fund kids that _are_ happy, it 's usually because
               | they were instilled with a strong work ethic - they had
               | to find how to struggle at _something_ , even if it
               | wasn't financial.
               | 
               | If you talk to what most people and find what really
               | makes them happy (and their _have_ been actual studies
               | about this), it is human relationships, a sense of
               | dignity, and pride in themselves that brings them
               | happiness. More cheap consumer goods from China are
               | unlikely to fill that void.
        
             | ghaff wrote:
             | Just one (somewhat trivial but perhaps not) thing was all
             | the entrepreneurial activity by individual and adjacent
             | businesses to create more stylish/higher quality/etc.
             | masks. Now perhaps one could make a rational argument that
             | we'd be better off with just a bunch of standard N95 masks
             | period. But people are funny and one shouldn't let the
             | perfect be the enemy of the good.
        
         | seriousquestion wrote:
         | That's important perspective. What did it look like in the
         | early days of the shortage tho? Did it start off as minor and
         | become more severe over time? Or did it go from plentiful to
         | none right away?
        
           | raspasov wrote:
           | Pretty instant. Since there was essentially no internet or
           | nothing substantial was online (mid 90s in Bulgaria), you'd
           | hear from people that there's shortage of something, and it's
           | already too late.
           | 
           | The line is hours long and your best option is to simply line
           | up or you're gonna be out of gas, for example. Family members
           | sometimes would take turns waiting at the gas station for a
           | few hours.
           | 
           | There were more shortages in the early 90s right after the
           | collapse of the Soviet block, but I don't personally remember
           | those.
        
         | djitz wrote:
         | Cubans have a saying "cuando no hay papel de bano, el culo
         | aprende a leer."
         | 
         | When there is no toilet paper, your ass learns to read.
        
           | apengwin wrote:
           | What does this mean, actually? Are you picking and choosing
           | which newspaper sections to keep, or are you just sitting on
           | the toilet a lot more?
        
             | rad_gruchalski wrote:
             | You're wiping with a newspaper.
        
         | notheretoo wrote:
         | That's because the shortages you experienced were real. The
         | shortages we've had over the pandemic are greatly exaggerated
         | by our trash tabloid media which vice is a prime offender.
        
         | raspasov wrote:
         | My experience exactly.
         | 
         | Growing up in the 90s in Bulgaria, my parents had to line up
         | for hours or half a day to fill up gas in the car. This went on
         | for weeks/months.
         | 
         | If I complain that people are complaining too much in the
         | modern world, I would be complaining as well. So I won't,
         | otherwise it will be an infinite loop.
        
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           | akomtu wrote:
           | Someone from North Korea could tell you that USSR people had
           | an easy life. We don't see those stories on HN because
           | there's only one person in NK who has internet.
        
         | dheera wrote:
         | The reason there was a TP "shortage" in the US is everyone
         | started hoarding it. There really wasn't a shortage, it was
         | just idiots taking advantage of the situation to resell {masks,
         | TP, lysol, sanitizer} to other people on ebay at 10x the cost.
         | 
         | If the government had some guts they would put their foot down,
         | personally go to every single one of those ebay sellers' homes,
         | throw them in jail, and then restrict sales of all of the above
         | products to a generous and reasonable amount per person with
         | government ID required to purchase. Problem would have been
         | solved.
         | 
         | But our government is too chicken to do that.
        
           | nickpp wrote:
           | The reason we had true shortages in Easter Europe in the 80s
           | in because the government thought it knew better and
           | interfered (planned).
           | 
           | The reason you had fake shortages last year is exactly
           | because the government stayed out of it.
        
       | swiley wrote:
       | There's a word for an everything shortage: "inflation."
        
         | blacktriangle wrote:
         | I suspect it's more like two words: JIT Manufacturing
        
       | raspasov wrote:
       | https://www.amazon.com/Penn-Tennis-Balls-Case-Extra/dp/B001C...
       | 
       | It's Saturday morning. I can get 45 balls delivered Monday.
       | 
       | Click-bait shortage-mongering?
        
         | admn2 wrote:
         | These usually go for around $2.25 a can, but this isn't such a
         | horrible price.
        
         | starky wrote:
         | The store I usually buy tennis balls at is showing over 1200
         | tubes of just one brand of balls in stock at the store near me,
         | must be pretty localized if it is a problem.
        
       | nobodyandproud wrote:
       | I know someone very closely and heavily involved with
       | international logistics.
       | 
       | One of the major problems are the East Coast ports in the United
       | States.
       | 
       | They're relatively small and cannot handle some of the cargo
       | ships that are used today.
       | 
       | Then other is the lack of labor, because docks are union jobs;
       | the kind that pass on from generation to generation because of
       | how good the work is.
        
         | greedo wrote:
         | Are the unions restricting new memberships? If there's a
         | surplus of unfulfilled jobs, the unions can just get new
         | members during the peak times, and then when demand drops, they
         | can give priority to senior members.
        
       | barbarbar wrote:
       | Just use old balls. They may not have much hair and be a little
       | slow but it is the same for both players. In fact a bit more
       | entertaining than 250km/h first serve (that nobody can see) and
       | better for the environment.
        
         | nwellinghoff wrote:
         | lol. No.
        
           | osrec wrote:
           | I don't know why you're being down voted. The OPs suggestion
           | is so silly, primarily because they don't understand that
           | even balls from the same pack deflate at different rates. You
           | end up with a bunch of tennis balls that all behave very
           | differently, and you can't really have a good game. A better
           | suggestion would be to take unpressurized tennis balls...
        
             | kzrdude wrote:
             | Why should we overconsume balls like this. It's just more
             | pointless resource waste. We need to be smarter about how
             | we live on this planet - in the large and the small.
             | 
             | Tennis balls might be a small thing, but it is symbolic of
             | the general thinking: just buy more of it, to solve
             | whatever the problem is.
        
             | jffry wrote:
             | The post you are replying to got downvoted because "lol.
             | No" is not a constructive response to a well-meaning
             | suggestion.
             | 
             | From the Hacker News guidelines [1], "In Comments" section:
             | Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other
             | people's work. A good critical comment teaches us
             | something.
             | 
             | Likewise, re: your comment, some other guidelines also
             | apply:                  Please don't comment about the
             | voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes
             | boring reading.              Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have
             | curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't
             | fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the
             | community.
             | 
             | A kinder way to say what you said would be to remove this
             | part entirely: "The OPs suggestion is so silly, primarily
             | because they don't understand that...". You're phrasing it
             | in a way that suggests that OP has been exposed to your
             | knowledge already and simply came to the wrong conclusion,
             | instead of assuming that perhaps OP simply doesn't have a
             | lot of experience playing tennis with balls in different
             | condition.
             | 
             | An example for you to try instead would be something like:
             | "Many players prefer not to use old balls because each one
             | behaves differently and makes the game less fun. Even balls
             | from the same pack deflate at different rates" etc etc
             | 
             | [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        
               | osrec wrote:
               | I appreciate your response, however, to a serious tennis
               | player, the OPs comment is so naive, to the point that
               | you wonder if they're being sarcastic. They probably lack
               | the experience of playing tennis at a reasonable level,
               | and have come to their conclusion in a very uninformed
               | way. Almost suggesting all other tennis players are daft
               | to not reuse balls!
               | 
               | Why the heck would people spend money on a new set of
               | balls before each match if it didn't materially impact
               | the quality of the game?!
               | 
               | Also, your post attempting to educate me is rather
               | passive aggressive. In some ways, that's meanest kind of
               | mean on HN :(
        
               | jffry wrote:
               | You continue to demean and put down the OP, in violation
               | of this site's commenting guidelines.
               | 
               | Telling you that your post is uncivil and pointing out
               | specific problems and how to improve them is far from
               | passive-aggression.
        
             | barbarbar wrote:
             | Have played - though mostly from baseline and mostly on
             | clay court and hate new balls. So I do understand.
        
               | osrec wrote:
               | Why do you hate new balls? Does it make the game too fast
               | for you?
        
               | barbarbar wrote:
               | Yes. And certainly on indoor courts and with someone with
               | fast serves.
        
         | jansan wrote:
         | Even 10 year olds use a set of new balls per match in league
         | plays. Not that it makes much sense, but that's how it is.
        
         | yuy910616 wrote:
         | Are we savages or what?
        
           | barbarbar wrote:
           | Actually I was not. But I think I see what you mean when
           | reading it again.
        
           | oblio wrote:
           | Well, he is bar bar bar.
        
           | admn2 wrote:
           | They do make "pressureless" balls that arguably last a bit
           | longer (which no one in the US uses it seems), but
           | pressurized balls will go flat even if they're not being used
           | if they're opened. Wilson has a new plastic-free ball that
           | uses similar tech to pressureless called the Triniti, which
           | attempts to solve the plastic part and they last about 5 sets
           | plus.
        
       | racl101 wrote:
       | A lot of dogs will be sad.
        
       | monstrado wrote:
       | Not sure about the large stores, but i've had luck getting my
       | balls at the local mom and pop tennis supply stores.
        
       | jeffbee wrote:
       | Apparently, because this clown ordered 24 cans for himself. What
       | the hell, man?
        
         | h2odragon wrote:
         | The black market opportunities are obvious, no? The man with
         | the hookup gets the riches.
         | 
         | "Hey buddy, you lookin' for some _bounce_? "
        
       | throwaway59553 wrote:
       | It sure was a good idea to allow every factory to move to East
       | Asia.
        
         | parineum wrote:
         | I am pretty shocked that this hasn't been more of a narrative
         | since the PPE shortages of COVID.
         | 
         | I guess it's expected that the people who have been pushing the
         | free trade globalization angle wouldn't want to turn and admit
         | that strategy has a significant downside that's been ignored.
         | Not to say that it doesn't have upside.
        
           | leppr wrote:
           | The upside is shifting resources to focus on industries with
           | less competition like software and semiconductors. No country
           | can sustain the current quality of life of their citizens
           | without imports.
        
             | wizzwizz4 wrote:
             | Our planet as a whole does, so this doesn't seem to be a
             | universal truth.
        
               | SubiculumCode wrote:
               | This. I make the same argument when the question is in
               | regards to whether a large national economy can do well
               | in a silo. It seems to me that the U.S. is large enough
               | to provide all types of resources, were they developed.
        
         | vajrabum wrote:
         | And combining that with the JIT, minimize inventory thing makes
         | it just that much more fun doesn't it.
        
         | 8note wrote:
         | And then there wouldn't be a shortage because western countries
         | didn't lock down non-essentials due to covid?
        
         | missedthecue wrote:
         | Investing in creating an autarky so that you can buy as many
         | tennis balls as you want during every black swan event?
        
         | monkeybutton wrote:
         | We should've invested in a strategic tennis ball reserve at the
         | bare minimum.
        
       | FriedPickles wrote:
       | Tennis balls always felt like a planned obsolescence item to me.
       | Are we really unable to make balls that don't lose their bounce
       | after a few matches? Or a tennis ball that can be reinflated?
       | 
       | I'm sure longevity will always be traded for weight and
       | bounciness at the extremes, but for general play it's time for a
       | reusable tennis ball.
        
         | opinion-is-bad wrote:
         | It's more than just the air that gets lost from a ball, the
         | felt is delicate and even small changes in distribution affect
         | the spin. The stresses in tennis are intense, with 100 mph
         | common for even pretty low level amateur serves. Most players
         | keep used balls after a match for practice hitting too, and
         | they stay usable for months.
         | 
         | My aunt has been playing competition tennis for about 50 years
         | now, and she jokes that even with all the inflation on other
         | stuff, a can of balls cost $3 in 1970 just like it does now, so
         | they have definitely been making some pretty big efficiency
         | gains in the manufacturing.
        
           | latchkey wrote:
           | Or they just pay the workers less.
           | 
           | (before you apply that comment to just tennis balls, think
           | bigger picture)
        
       | notRobot wrote:
       | Just from HN I've learned that so far this year we've had a:
       | 
       | Pasta shortage: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25566652
       | 
       | Shipping container shortage:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26574077
       | 
       | Chip shortage: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27095558
       | 
       | And now a tennis ball shortage...
        
         | londons_explore wrote:
         | Shortages wouldn't be so severe if market prices could reward
         | those who had done work to mitigate the shortage. For example,
         | when cups are in short supply, the person who sells their
         | reserve stock for a healthy profit.
         | 
         | Unfortunately anti-price-gouging laws are being enforced more
         | strictly, which means those who can alleviate a shortage are
         | usually not rewarded. End result is people no longer go to
         | great lengths to come up with ways to alleviate shortages, and
         | the shortages end up worse.
        
           | Yoric wrote:
           | I suspect that gouging-without-countermeasures causes much
           | more damage than anti-gouging, though.
        
             | inglor_cz wrote:
             | Specifically in case of tennis balls, I would argue that
             | having them expensive is still better than not having them
             | at all - tennis players need to practise.
        
               | Const-me wrote:
               | How long do they last?
               | 
               | Can we possibly change these arbitrary sport regulations
               | making the balls last 100x as much?
        
         | jbay808 wrote:
         | Wasn't there also a sofa shortage, caused in part by a foam
         | shortage?
         | 
         | https://slate.com/business/2021/07/furniture-shortage-couch-...
        
           | Yoric wrote:
           | Obviously, they're after the MyPillow guy.
           | 
           | /s
        
           | Arrath wrote:
           | I can chime in with my own anecdote, I was quoted (back in
           | May) a 28-week delivery timeframe for a couch, much like in
           | that article.
        
         | toiletaccount wrote:
         | I'll jump onto the dog pile and add air filters for your
         | vehicle. Dealerships are buying them up like toilet paper so
         | you have to call around and ask them very nicely if they'd mind
         | shipping it to you. And during fire season too.
        
           | s0rce wrote:
           | I just picked up mine from Amazon. Random cheap brands but
           | everything was in stock. Rock Auto seemed to have stock as
           | well. Maybe I got lucky.
        
             | toiletaccount wrote:
             | i had trouble with the engine air filter specifically.
             | might have been a make/model specific thing, but i found
             | one of the last ones in my state according to the dealers
             | inventory system.
        
         | auxym wrote:
         | I had to wait 2 months to order a Fluke DMM at work.
         | 
         | Also bikes and all sorts of bike parts and accessories.
        
           | fy20 wrote:
           | I went into Decathlon yesterday, and only two bikes were out
           | of stock. Compare to this time last year when there were only
           | two in stock...
        
             | spamizbad wrote:
             | Lucky. I went to take delivery of a new bike at a local
             | bike shop last month and it was completely picked over.
             | They had a few models left but easily 80% of their stock
             | was gone. They also had 2 bike mechanics working in a
             | crowded workspace diligently fixing what looked like a
             | sizable backlog of bikes in need of repairs and upgrades. I
             | asked one of the guys working there about the shortage and
             | he also mentioned it's related to holdup in overseas
             | shipping.
        
               | mc32 wrote:
               | Yeah I heard the same. Because of very low inventory and
               | multi month delivery times, folks are opting to get their
               | old bikes fixed and causing a backlog in the repair shop.
        
             | smichel17 wrote:
             | People's experience will vary eidely because the problem is
             | in the supply chains, not production. In most cases, there
             | exists plenty of X, it's getting it from Y to Z that's the
             | problem.
        
         | cableshaft wrote:
         | There's a lot more than that going on right now. A whole
         | subreddit dedicated to it[1].
         | 
         | [1]: https://old.reddit.com/r/Shortages/
        
           | knownjorbist wrote:
           | Doom & gloom is a borderline fetish. Look closer and for most
           | things the shortage is an inconvenience at most.
        
           | megablast wrote:
           | Looks just like a preppers sub.
        
           | tmh88j wrote:
           | Hmm, could have potential but it needs some better
           | moderation. It seems to consist mostly of knee-jerk reactions
           | to local stores selling out of a very specific random product
           | and calling it a shortage, or vague statements without any
           | useful details. "HEB is out of Valentina hot sauce" and
           | "Walmart has limits on basic food".
        
         | Kluny wrote:
         | Also bike parts, raw textiles, and tofu!
         | 
         | For the tennis ball problem, I invite everyone to visit my
         | balcony, where my upstairs neighbour's dog leaves all his
         | balls.
        
           | Finnucane wrote:
           | There's a tofu factory in my neighborhood, so no shortage
           | here.
        
             | curmudgeon22 wrote:
             | for maybe ~6 weeks, i noticed dramatically reduced tofu
             | supply in stores near me (Vancouver BC), including from
             | local brands. There was usually something... the
             | soft/dessert tofu being most common. Seems to be back to
             | normal the last couple weeks.
        
         | shusaku wrote:
         | Somewhere, an economist is regretting creating an inflation
         | measure based on a shipping container of pasta, chips, and
         | tennis balls.
        
         | SV_BubbleTime wrote:
         | Containers are real.
         | 
         | We used to pay $3000 per container.
         | 
         | We are now paying $11,000 per, and can't get enough of them.
        
         | gregoriol wrote:
         | Tennis balls are not vital equipment, they are just for fun, so
         | it's not a big deal. Some other shortages are more worrying as
         | they affect more important situations like food supply, work
         | tools, ...
        
           | gwright wrote:
           | I don't think modern economies and supply chains work that
           | way. It isn't like the tennis ball supply chain is an
           | independent entity from everything else. It is all connected
           | in somewhat intricate and non-obvious ways.
           | 
           | It isn't particularly surprising to me that we are seeing all
           | sorts of side-effects of the unpresidented shutdown of vast
           | parts of our economy as a response to COVID.
        
           | kibbleznbits wrote:
           | My dog disagrees.
        
             | smegger001 wrote:
             | your dog can continue using his old tennis ball over and
             | over again though.
        
               | weavie wrote:
               | You've clearly not met my dog..
        
               | megablast wrote:
               | Get him onto old branches.
        
               | weavie wrote:
               | Oh she loves sticks. The problem is she eats them, which
               | results in her throwing them up all over my carpet an
               | hour or so later.
        
         | snug wrote:
         | There were also boba shortages earlier this year
        
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         | CarVac wrote:
         | A few years ago at family meals, for grace I started thanking
         | the industrial supply complex for bringing us all the wonderful
         | food.
         | 
         | I was being more prescient than I could have imagined.
        
       | eddanger wrote:
       | I have purchased maybe one or two packs in my lifetime but
       | somehow I have half the worlds supply of tennis balls in my back
       | yard.
        
       | joezydeco wrote:
       | My son was waiting on a new racket from Head this spring and was
       | told that they lost a number of shipping containers in a storm
       | off the coast of Hawaii.
       | 
       | https://www.wired.com/story/where-shoes-ordered-check-ocean-...
        
       | dcolkitt wrote:
       | For those who are more domain knowledgeable in the logistics
       | space, when can we expect these sporadic shortages to end?
       | 
       | I know that there's a supply chain whipsaw effect. Where a
       | disruption in one component leads to a delayed downstream
       | distortion somewhere else. But at what point can we expect these
       | ghosts lurking in the system to finally work themselves out.
        
         | AlecSchueler wrote:
         | What caused the initial issue, the Suez fiasco?
        
           | icegreentea2 wrote:
           | The pandemic in general? Trans-pacific shipping got
           | completely blown up (on both ends) multiple times since
           | Feb/March 2019.
           | 
           | Already while COVID was largely confined to China, supply
           | problems were beginning to emerge, starting with China
           | factories shutting down and internal networks (trucking)
           | being disrupted by the pandemic and lockdowns. Everything
           | just compounded from there. I remember reading daily posts on
           | a supply chain subreddit talking about shipping indexes
           | dropping daily in March.
           | 
           | Like honestly, it's pretty amazing that shortages aren't
           | worse. Perhaps a testament to how much of our trade is in
           | non-critical goods.
        
           | Kluny wrote:
           | Well no, covid. It's still fallout from that. Factories in
           | the cheap-labour countries like Taiwan closed down due to
           | covid, and oftentimes management made conservative bets about
           | how long covid would continue, so they didn't ramp up
           | production or efficiency (or couldn't).
        
         | DavidPeiffer wrote:
         | I'm an industrial engineer, more manufacturing focused than
         | specifically logistics. From what I've seen and heard from
         | talking with other IE's at other companies, we're probably
         | looking at a couple years before things are "normal" again, and
         | they'll continue to be a mess in a way that's transparent to
         | the consumer longer than that.
         | 
         | As long as there are areas of the world with significant trade
         | that are being hit hard by COVID there will be disruptions. In
         | the last few weeks, Southeast Asia has had reduced port
         | capacity due to a COVID surge.
         | 
         | Heck, even in US production it's tough to get production and
         | warehouse employees right now! Weird times for sure, even if
         | you're paying a strong wage.
         | 
         | If you're curious about general global shipping, in 2017
         | Flexport put out a great podcast about cargo ships. I really
         | wish they would do an additional podcast about the current
         | happenings, though their blog posts are quite interesting.
         | 
         | https://www.flexport.com/blog/alexis-madrigal-containers-pod...
         | 
         | Odd Lots (a Bloomberg podcast) also had a great interview from
         | earlier this month.
         | 
         | https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-02/gene-sero...
        
       | dmje wrote:
       | I'm sure it'll bounce back
        
       | booleandilemma wrote:
       | Shortage of something? Let me try to do without.
       | 
       | No wait, let me try to order 24 (24 for goodness sake) tennis
       | balls online!
        
       | notadev wrote:
       | "Naturally, as an experienced investigative reporter, my next
       | move was the highly advanced research technique of Googling
       | "Tennis Ball Shortage?" There were enough hits on Reddit and
       | tennis forums to confirm there are, at least in some parts of the
       | country, indeed tennis ball shortages."
       | 
       | I feel like this fairly accurately sums up modern journalism.
        
         | adventured wrote:
         | $200,000 degree from Northwestern. Learned to Google.
        
         | LeoPanthera wrote:
         | Can you explain why you think this doesn't count as journalism?
         | 
         | A journalist who _doesn 't_ do simple Google searches on
         | popular internet forums in order to discover what people are
         | talking about would seem to me to not be doing their job.
        
         | _s wrote:
         | My partner is a journalist in a specific niche (science).
         | 
         | Unfortunately - folks have shown time and time again they will
         | not pay content when an alternative is available for free.
         | 
         | Most, if not all journalists, would prefer to be do doing
         | investigative work over a few weeks and months - highlighting
         | what is in the publics interests.
         | 
         | Publishers on the other hand, with the sales / advertising /
         | marketing requirements & constraints, would much prefer they
         | crunch out 10x stories a day that can drive traffic (ergo
         | revenue).
         | 
         | What you are left with are tight deadlines, incredibly poor
         | pay, and most of the experienced folks who actually care about
         | what articles are written under their name just hanging up
         | their pens and taking up cushy gigs in comms / marketing.
         | 
         | Journalism still exists, but has been dying steadily - nearly
         | all folks in positions of wealth and power would prefer it
         | didn't exist, and for the folks that should be reading what
         | they write - they won't pay for it, and won't trust it.
        
           | sgregnt wrote:
           | There seems to be more demand for podcasts or video blogs,
           | maybe your partner can think of starting a podcasts?
        
           | comicjk wrote:
           | I think investigative journalism nonprofits like ProPublica
           | are the best point of leverage for this problem. Big
           | newspapers like the Washington Post & NY Times do good
           | investigative work too, but pair it with lots of duplicate
           | stories.
        
       | rvnx wrote:
       | Vice should better check their articles. I typed tennis balls on
       | US websites, same day delivery available...
       | 
       | Even for the same website as they said, there is stock in large
       | quantities: https://www.tennis-
       | warehouse.com/Wilson_US_Open_XD_Tennis_Ba...
       | 
       | This is 72-balls, way enough to play.
        
         | spamizbad wrote:
         | That's pretty expensive
        
           | IshKebab wrote:
           | It's like $1.32 per ball. That doesn't seem very expensive
           | for fancy branded balls.
        
       | nradov wrote:
       | There was a hot tub (spa) shortage in 2020. No one could go on
       | vacation so people spent their money on home hot tubs instead.
       | First world problems.
        
         | SubiculumCode wrote:
         | Same thing with swimming pools.
        
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