[HN Gopher] Open Compute Project: An Interview with Intel's Rebe...
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Open Compute Project: An Interview with Intel's Rebecca Weekly
Author : rbanffy
Score : 50 points
Date : 2021-08-12 11:43 UTC (1 days ago)
(HTM) web link (www.anandtech.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.anandtech.com)
| tunnuz wrote:
| Anybody else feeling a bit weird at how her (massive) picture is
| the first thing in the page, as opposed to a picture about the
| project itself? And anybody else feeling that this is only the
| case because she looks good, almost if her looks was more
| important than her hard-earned Senior Principal Engineer
| position?
| hhh wrote:
| No, it's an interview first man not a whitepaper.
| IfOnlyYouKnew wrote:
| Of course the top post is misogynistic bullshit accusing her of
| getting special treatment for her looks, even though the idea
| is easily disproven by checking out the other 'interview" style
| article on the site, which is two click away and also features
| a large photo of the subject.
|
| It starts with questions about the photo, and the next guy
| piles on and characterizes the interview as "political, not
| technical", because, apparently interviews that require
| footnotes explaining that "an average PUE is 1.4-2.0, bad PUE
| is 2.5+" are just too fluffy for real nerds.
|
| (As to the size, which someone invokes to save this accusation,
| below: both are scaled to the width of the content, only one
| happens to be landscape while the other is in what's literally
| called "portrait" format)
| tunnuz wrote:
| Sorry but I wasn't trying to say that she's getting special
| treatment. That's not what I said or what I meant. And I'm
| sorry that my comment was perceived as misogynistic, the
| spirit was quite the opposite.
| acomjean wrote:
| So what was your point in posting the original post? You
| post seems to be just a comment on the page layout and
| speculation about it based on her appearance.
|
| Its almost certainly a company stock photo of her.
|
| The page layout is bad, (she's looking off the page, which
| makes it awkward) but its the tech news web (moving ads,
| almost unreadable without reader view...).
| jsty wrote:
| If you click through to the interview topic [0], it lists
| another article [1] with exactly the same format of a large
| profile shot pre-article. Makes sense to me - it follows the
| usual style of interviews having a photo of the interviewee
| front and centre, and after all they're interviewing a person
| not a rack of servers.
|
| [0] https://www.anandtech.com/tag/interviews
|
| [1] https://www.anandtech.com/show/16762/an-anandtech-
| interview-...
| schmorptron wrote:
| This is a really good discussion to be had. There is an
| argument to be made about putting traditionally
| underrepresented groups of people front and center in articles
| like this, but it all depends on if she requested(or was
| explicitly in agreement with) this / chose the picture herself,
| or if other interviews on the same site do the same thing with
| male engineers IMO.
|
| Definitely agree that >"almost if her looks was more important
| than her hard-earned Senior Principal Engineer position" seems
| to be a real problem for many women in the industry, and I
| really hope we can overcome this soon.
| tunnuz wrote:
| Definitely, I know nothing of the origin of the picture.
|
| I have a daughter that I am hoping will get excited about
| STEM. I am, as I think everybody should be, very much in
| favor of increasing the representation of underrepresented
| groups of people. But this just seems like an odd editorial
| choice.
|
| For comparison: https://www.anandtech.com/show/16762/an-
| anandtech-interview-... this is the picture size of a male
| interviewee. It's less than half the size of the other one.
| wtallis wrote:
| > It's less than half the size of the other one.
|
| It's the same width. The site always shows the cover image
| at the full width of the article. If that image doesn't
| have a fairly wide aspect ratio, then it pushes the article
| text relatively further down.
| mhh__ wrote:
| That is a photo off what looks like a laptop camera though,
| if it were the same size it'd look awful. Point taken
| though
| schmorptron wrote:
| Yeah I'm completely with you that this is a really odd
| choice. Just wanted to think about an alternate reason why
| they could've made that choice but your initial assessment
| seems way more likely, sadly.
| rjsw wrote:
| I'm guessing the photo came from Intel, can't see many
| interviews being done in person right now.
|
| There was a similar presentation for another recent interview
| [1] with an Intel person.
|
| [1] https://www.anandtech.com/show/16608/intels-full-
| enterprise-...
| namibj wrote:
| It was indeed done remote, you can watch/listen:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlB6tsLiY0w
| tbrownaw wrote:
| > _Anybody else feeling a bit weird at how her (massive)
| picture is the first thing in the page, as opposed to a picture
| about the project itself?_
|
| No. Despite the value of "on the Internet, nobody knows you're
| (a dog|not wearing pants)", it's unfortunately become fairly
| common for even things that aren't about people to focus on
| pictures of people.
|
| > _And anybody else feeling that this is only the case because
| she looks good, almost if her looks was more important than her
| hard-earned Senior Principal Engineer position?_
|
| No, because I haven't been living under a rock and I've noticed
| that pictures of people are standard practice these days even
| for tech-related things.
| unixhero wrote:
| Hot girls sell. Plain and simple. It's everywhere, thanks to
| gender quotas on boards and in teams, you can expect more of
| it. The hot girls and the pretty girls are picked first.
|
| You may want to downvote this comment, but these are the facts
| as I have observed them.
|
| EDIT: The same story applies to guys btw.
| hulitu wrote:
| The interview is also more about pictures (what intel wants you
| to see) than about reality. A lot of political talk without
| substance. The only thing i got that they want to have a sort
| of vendor agnostic datacenter.
| trhway wrote:
| it is just another country club style board, countless in the
| industry, for VPs to fill their calendar and to
| mingle/network. Tech wise - Intel is like those generals
| fighting the last war while the world is moving forward. It
| is a very strong contrast with the NVidia presentation of
| their new architecture with that Grace CPU, etc. - this is
| what near future looks like.
| tbrownaw wrote:
| https://www.opencompute.org/blog/introducing-ocp-20
|
| > Optics: Lead in defining market requirements for process and
| technology transitions for optimal convergence
|
| Does this mean that in a couple years the half-dozen different
| parameters for fiber network stuff will be standardized enough
| for no-thought-required home use like RJ-45 / CAT6 wired ethernet
| is today?
| mmmBacon wrote:
| Optical connectivity for short reach (distance) is pretty well
| standardized and has been for years at least at 1G and above.
| The biggest barrier for a home user would be familiarizing
| oneself with the fact you can't bend fibers like you can copper
| and you have to keep connectors clean. Other than that you
| should be able to connect and go.
| wmf wrote:
| No, this will never happen. Longer reach is more expensive but
| the industry won't pay the highest prices for everything if
| they don't need to.
| namibj wrote:
| Well, OM3/4 on MPO is a common thing, as is OS2 on dual-LC.
| jabl wrote:
| As hinted at in the article, the 'OCP rack' spec was narrowly
| specified to address a specific problem facebook had, and by
| being gratuitously incompatible with standard 19" racks they
| really hindered adoption of OCP gear outside of hyperscalers that
| were able and willing to go all-in on OCP.
|
| Hopefully the new Open-19 thing that is now part of OCP can
| rectify this mistake.
| formerly_proven wrote:
| What exactly is the point of Open-19? Seems like yet-another
| type of blade enclosure, since you loose access to the back of
| the nodes, you loose a lot of flexibility for IO.
| wmf wrote:
| OCP includes plenty of 19" equipment such as Microsoft's OCS
| and has for years. There's probably more 19" gear than 21" in
| OCP now.
| wtallis wrote:
| And there are also a lot of OCP specs for components that
| don't care whether they're in a 19" or 21" system. Their
| specs for NICs and SSDs are relevant regardless of the rack
| size.
| phnofive wrote:
| Yeah, I was trying to figure out the modern relevance of the
| OCP mission ten years on - lost me at the chiplet discussion.
| The nonstandard racks seemed to indicate the organization would
| be a dog-wagging tail, but it's unclear how much that's
| happened either.
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