[HN Gopher] Scanning "Private" Content
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Scanning "Private" Content
Author : lisptime
Score : 74 points
Date : 2021-08-12 19:22 UTC (3 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (lwn.net)
(TXT) w3m dump (lwn.net)
| villgax wrote:
| This is something we almost certainly didn't raise any issues
| with regards to Google Drive as well
| lettergram wrote:
| Librem 5 and pinephone are the future
| gentleman11 wrote:
| You should be forbidden from calling it private if you scan it
| like this. Companies should be forced to market their data
| storage as public so as to not deliberately mislead users
| iammisc wrote:
| The Butlerian Jihad cannot come soon enough. As time goes on, I
| realize that certain authors had better insights into the human
| condition than others. For example, Alduous Huxley has turned out
| to be more prophetic than George Orwell. I believe Frank Herbert
| will as well. Man cannot be ruled by machine.
|
| This cannot last much longer. A lot of political division in this
| country is due to technology. As someone genuinely interested in
| computation, it upsets me to realize this, but more and more it
| seems inevitable.
| wydfre wrote:
| While I'm over here, a schizophrenic terrorized by the
| government, and I cannot wait for an AI to replace people. I
| want AI to overthrow humanity and subjugate us with a
| simulation, except with German orthography instead of Kanji
| (thus implying it is a German AI, not a Japanese AI as is canon
| in the movies, because I'll take my chances this time around).
| I want Cortana with a moral compass that could slice angstroms,
| not some Japanese bumpkins and CIA salvia-dealers' cloned
| consciousness with excuses.
|
| Can you imagine: everyone at the NSA is celebrating Apple and
| the CSAM automated scanning.
|
| Simultaneously, connected intelligence officials: wait, they
| aren't going to let the nation state AI judge what I do for the
| STATE? Surely, no god-like AI would understand what is
| necessary. No xir.
| AlexandrB wrote:
| I haven't seen much discussion of the changes to search, which
| seem a little dystopian as well:
|
| > Siri and Search are also being updated to intervene when users
| perform searches for queries related to CSAM. These interventions
| will explain to users that interest in this topic is harmful and
| problematic, and provide resources from partners to get help with
| this issue.
|
| Will apple.cn be extending this to searches about "tank man" or a
| certain stuffed bear? Oh bother...
| shocks wrote:
| This is interesting because it's trivial to use someone else's
| Siri and make it search whatever you want.
|
| (I can trigger my partners with 75% reliability if I just speak
| in a high pitched voice)
| nullc wrote:
| I noticed google doing this too while trying to look up case
| law related to the discussion of apple's spyware. Related
| google searches popped up a big intimidating notice: "
| _WARNING_ Child sexual abuse imagery is illegal ".
|
| The obvious implication is that your searches are being
| reported to some unaccountable authority.
|
| I have no doubt that this creates a chilling effect against
| public discussion about these practices.
| sandworm101 wrote:
| Lol. I've gotten these many times. It turns out that an
| acronym related to my work is one typo away from a listed
| child porn term/site. If google is reporting these then I am
| already on thier list.
| shapefrog wrote:
| > It turns out that an acronym related to my work is one
| typo away
|
| Ah that old chestnut, I am sure they have heard many worse
| excuses than that one.
| sandworm101 wrote:
| There is an old Drew Carry joke:
|
| "I wanted to get the Playboy channel, but I already have
| the cartoon network and if you have both they put you on
| a special list."
| millzlane wrote:
| I'd be up in arms too if I liked downloading CP. I see why
| everyone is more upset than when the US government did it to
| entire countries including our own citizens.
| anonymousiam wrote:
| Maybe get the hash database and create a trove of clean documents
| that force a hash collision and overload the system with false
| positives. Maybe also add something about the Fourth Amendment in
| the documents for good measure.
| josephcsible wrote:
| > get the hash database
|
| Apple designed the system so that their hashes are never known
| to client devices. Their server is fundamentally involved in
| checking your hashes against their list.
| gentleman11 wrote:
| You are assuming people will not be marked for life for their
| false positives
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