[HN Gopher] Carbon budget will exhaust in 10 years at current em...
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Carbon budget will exhaust in 10 years at current emission levels:
IPCC report
Author : boplicity
Score : 15 points
Date : 2021-08-12 18:30 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| boplicity wrote:
| I think the goal, at this point, should be to do anything we can
| to give us breathing room.
|
| Maybe over the next two years, we can turn things around enough
| so that we still have 10 years before we hit the emissions limit.
|
| Even that, though, would require dramatic investments that I'm
| not seeing right now.
| raffraffraff wrote:
| I was under the impression that we're way past the point where we
| should be removing co2 from the atmosphere instead of talking
| about some emmissions _budget_. There _is no budget_. Practically
| nobody I 've ever spoken to on the subject of climate change
| actually knows what the 1.5C "thing" is all about. The assumption
| most people seem to make is that we're fine for now, we just have
| to make sure that "some temperature" doesn't exceed "some value"
| by 1.5C, within, uh... "some time frame". In other words: don't
| worry! The boffins have drawn a nice safe imaginary line
| somewhere, and future generations better not cross it or bad
| things will happen to polar bears! But don't worry, keep eating
| steak and driving everywhere and buying shit you don't need, and
| of course you can fly transatlantic as long as you're vaccinated!
|
| That while 1.5C thing was supposed to be a "DO NOT CROSS" worst-
| case-scenario. But it was domed from the start because it was
| based on a lot of best case scenarios (like magic co2 capture
| that doesn't exist) and didn't even account for the multitude of
| feedback loops that were thought _possible_ (but actually all
| happening).
|
| I did a deep dive on this stuff 4 years ago. I was already
| vegetarian and don't drive, don't have kids. All I could really
| do was give up flying (which I did). I'm done worrying about this
| stuff. I know we're fucked, but I refuse to let it bother me.
| It's funny having it ignored for years until suddenly the weather
| actually turned to shit and people all start to talk about it
| like it's a surprise.
|
| Sorry. I'm drunk and pissed off seeing this shit.
| ipspam wrote:
| I agree, but in a totally different way. We are past the
| tipping point. To destroy capitalism and everything that got us
| here is a VERY risky strategy.
|
| Instead, it's full steam ahead. Technology will save us from
| ourselves. Or not. But that's the only realistic option.
|
| On a positive note, we've been here many many times before and
| overcome. There would be no trees left without coal. There
| would be no whales left without petroleum. Now we are on to
| coal, petroleum, natural gas, nuclear, and renewables.
|
| Whatever budget anyone thinks there is, life goes on. Coal will
| be the next to go, and probably in about 50 years.
| tuatoru wrote:
| Capitalism got "destroyed" in WW II for a while. The US
| government told US factories what to make, and US growers
| what to grow.
|
| Changed circumstances need changed responses.
| chewz wrote:
| In other news. China reopens 44 coal plants. Europe is stocking
| coal like crazy for winter so coal prices reached all time high
| at Rotterdam.
| newbamboo wrote:
| "As of September 2017, there are two new reactors under
| construction with a gross electrical capacity of 2,500 MW, while
| 39 reactors have been permanently shut down. ... More than 100
| orders for nuclear power reactors, many already under
| construction, were canceled in the 1970s and 1980s, bankrupting
| some companies."
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_the_United_...
|
| Split wood not atoms.
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