[HN Gopher] Arcology: The city in the image of man (1969)
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       Arcology: The city in the image of man (1969)
        
       Author : simonebrunozzi
       Score  : 44 points
       Date   : 2021-08-05 06:17 UTC (16 hours ago)
        
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       | gumby wrote:
       | I was very excited by arcosanti as a kid in the 70s -- just as I
       | was excited by the studies of space settlements.
       | 
       | Ultimately of course I learnt that the reality of life is messy
       | amd with competing interests. Yet these utopian visions still
       | provide a lot of formative insight.
        
         | ansible wrote:
         | What's funny is that some form of utopia is / was within our
         | grasp, and we deliberately turned our backs on it in the USA.
         | 
         | A walkable city is far less organized than something like
         | arcosanti, as they tend to grow organically. But they do
         | provide a significantly higher quality of life compared to most
         | cities in the USA, because of the focus on car-based
         | transportation.
        
       | johnnyApplePRNG wrote:
       | Old thread about an Acrological building in Whittier, Alaska :
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8840005
        
         | samatman wrote:
         | I remember enjoying that thread when it first happened.
         | 
         | Looks like the URL it points to is dead, so here's an archive
         | link to spare the curious the trouble:
         | http://web.archive.org/web/20170214222943/https://stories.ca...
        
       | dirtyid wrote:
       | Great coffee table book. Wish there was a reprint. There is a
       | very handsome, large format (1m+) paper back version I can't seem
       | to track down for purchase anywhere. A copy exists in my alma
       | maters reference library, I drop by once in a while for a flip
       | through.
       | 
       | https://www.amazon.com/Arcology-city-image-Paolo-Soleri/dp/0...
        
         | simonebrunozzi wrote:
         | If I recall correctly, there's one at Arcosanti too (I visited
         | it in the winter of 2013).
        
       | jazzyjackson wrote:
       | The bells sold at the Arcosanti gift shop [0] are very
       | distinctive and once you start spotting them, you will know
       | people who have been influenced or inspired by Paolo Soleri's
       | architecture.
       | 
       | [0] https://cosanti.com/collections/bronze-bells
        
         | TigeriusKirk wrote:
         | I keep a nice Soleri tile near my computer to remind me of
         | utopian dreams.
        
       | stcredzero wrote:
       | Issac Arthur has a thing or two to say about Arcologies:
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsl-GBEZ-_Y
        
       | thunderbong wrote:
       | From the Forward (by Peter Blake) - _italics mine_
       | 
       | What I think he _(Paolo Soleri)_ is trying to say is this: there
       | is an inherent logic in the structure and nature of organisms
       | that have grown on this planet. Any architecture, any urban
       | design, and any social order that violates that structure and
       | nature is destructive of itself and of us. Any architecture,
       | urban design, or social order that is based upon organic
       | principles is valid and will prove its own validity.
        
       | thamalama wrote:
       | extra internet points if someone can guess what Paolo Soleri's
       | "bacon" number is to
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Bacon_(architect)
       | 
       | teeeheheheh
        
       | samch wrote:
       | Can't see this without immediately remembering countless hours
       | playing toward a city full of Arcologies in SimCity 2000. Fun
       | times!
        
         | coldacid wrote:
         | Did you ever build enough launch arcos in a single city that
         | they did indeed launch into space?
        
           | samch wrote:
           | Ha! It's been so long, I can't remember if I ever hit that
           | milestone. I had honesty completely forgotten about that
           | aspect of it!
        
       | teknopaul wrote:
       | FYI website unreadable on ff on android
        
       | xs wrote:
       | The last one on the list 30 - Arcosanti. Was actually built out
       | in the desert of Arizona.
        
         | pimlottc wrote:
         | It was, though not to the full size that was ultimately
         | intended. There's still a small community of people who live
         | and work there, along with a trickle of visiting
         | students/architects. Definitely worth a day trip if you're ever
         | in the Phoenix area with some free time.
        
       | elvinyung wrote:
       | I learned about Paolo Soleri from William Gibson's _Count Zero_
       | (sequel to the much more well-known _Neuromancer_ ). Gibson
       | always had a knack for foreseeing not just the automobile, but
       | also the traffic jam:
       | 
       | > But today's episode kept veering weirdly away from Michele's
       | frantically complex romantic entanglements, which Bobby had
       | anyway never bothered to keep track of, and jerking itself into
       | detailed socioarchitectural descriptions of Soleri-style mincome
       | arcologies. Some of the detail, even to Bobby, seemed suspect; he
       | doubted, for instance, that there really were entire levels
       | devoted to the sale of ice-blue shaved-velour lounge suites with
       | diamond-buckled knees, or that there were other levels,
       | perpetually dark, inhabited exclusively by starving babies. This
       | last, he seemed to recall, had been an article of faith to
       | Marsha, who regarded the Projects with superstitious horror, as
       | though they were some looming vertical hell to which she might
       | one day be forced to ascend.
       | 
       | > Other segments of the jack-dream reminded him of the Knowledge
       | channel Sense/Net piped in free with every stim subscription;
       | there were elaborate animated diagrams of the Projects' interior
       | structure, and droning lectures in voice-over on the life-styles
       | of various types of residents. These, when he was able to focus
       | on them, seemed even less convincing than the flashes of ice-blue
       | velour and feral babies creeping silently through the dark. He
       | watched a cheerful young mother slice pizza with a huge
       | industrial waterknife in the kitchen corner of a spotless one-
       | room. An entire wall opened onto a shallow balcony and a
       | rectangle of cartoon-blue sky.
        
         | ordinaryradical wrote:
         | His prose still kicks me in my teeth every time.
         | 
         | Thank you for sharing.
        
       | lordnacho wrote:
       | Is this where the huge building in SimCity 2000 came from?
        
         | coldacid wrote:
         | It is indeed. Although there were several arcos in SC2k, not
         | just one.
        
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