[HN Gopher] Ask HN: Best resources to support a partner with dep...
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       Ask HN: Best resources to support a partner with depression?
        
       Not sure if this is a perfect fit for HN but seeing as a lot of
       people here have some good insight into mental health from time to
       time, and a lot of people here have struggled. I have done a bunch
       of googling and I am at a loss to find resources that are more than
       just surface level. I have my own mental health issues but the
       depression I've struggled with in the past has always been
       something I've fixed by improving my life and prospects. So am at a
       loss as my poor partner is suffering terribly and has been for a
       while, and I don't think I've been a great help by just trying to
       fix things in our life and situation as it feels like I'm not
       really doing all that I can be.
        
       Author : antihero
       Score  : 17 points
       Date   : 2021-08-04 20:07 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
       | Rzor wrote:
       | Since you didn't mentioned: please, seek professional help before
       | you consider anything else here.
        
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         | kazinator wrote:
         | That's expensive, though.
         | 
         | Professional help is basically a form of entertainment for rich
         | people.
         | 
         | It's like having a personal trainer, but for your psyche.
        
           | Jtsummers wrote:
           | That's an incredibly unhelpful attitude.
           | 
           | More importantly, though, depression and anxiety can be
           | symptoms of other ailments as well as side effects of
           | medications (medications targeting non-mental health issues
           | or targeting mental health issues). It's almost always worth
           | going to a primary care provider to get a real diagnosis as
           | it can short-circuit the recovery process if a physical cause
           | can be identified (like thyroid conditions, side effects from
           | birth control medications for women, and others). If these
           | aren't factors, at least they've been ruled out.
        
         | codingdave wrote:
         | This is particularly important because it is easy to
         | incorrectly self-diagnose. If you are having mental health
         | concerns that are impacting your life, ask a professional to
         | help identify what the problems really are - root cause vs.
         | symptoms can be tricky if you are trying to figure it out on
         | your own.
        
           | BlissWaves wrote:
           | Mhm, and what's the success rate of treating depression with
           | a therapist?
        
             | codingdave wrote:
             | 90% according to a quick google search, but that was one
             | study on one technique. The point is, it works.
             | 
             | Keep in mind that "treating depression" does not mean just
             | turning it off like a light switch. It tends to mean
             | keeping your life under control, and simply keeping you
             | alive.
        
             | Jiocus wrote:
             | > 62% of adults show improvement after psychotherapy (66%
             | in CBT)
             | 
             | and on the flipside,
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             | > 53% of adults with untreated depression show improvement
             | in 12 months
             | 
             | More statistics where that came from here:
             | 
             | "Treatment outcomes for depression: challenges and
             | opportunities" https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/ar
             | ticle/PIIS2215-0...
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             | I wish OPs partner a healthy recovery :) Depression is
             | hard.
        
             | toomuchtodo wrote:
             | A professional is useful even if they have to refer you to
             | someone who has to prescribe you a solution, even if it's
             | ketamine recommendation.
        
       | piertoni wrote:
       | As some people said, the support of professional specialists is
       | really foundamental. Be aware that with a psychologist you (in
       | this case your partner, I am speaking at first person) need to
       | empathize and this means that you should change specialist if you
       | don't feel at ease or you don't feel suggestions good for you.
       | Not every psychologist is for every one and also there are
       | differents schools of psychology with different approaches, you
       | have to found the good fit (my suggestion is cognitive behavioral
       | school) As brudgers said you can't do the work for him/her, you
       | can help for sure, but this can be difficult and being too
       | protective is not a solution. At one point you should have faith
       | in your partner being able to come out. But something has to
       | trigger inside your partner... you can't do the job for him/her.
       | Be aware of methods/techniques that claims to resolve it easily.
       | Go with a psychologist, maybe you/your partner are smart enough
       | to understand the cause of the problem, but you don't know right
       | techniques and how to apply them properly.
       | 
       | In general Sport helps, there was a study by an Italian
       | Neuropsychologist that showed how 30 minutes of aerobic sport was
       | like a prozac (I'm simplifying, but the concept is this). Do
       | things, action instead of thinking, this helps.
        
       | Konohamaru wrote:
       | Don't take SSRI's. They're the worst medicine, with horrific side
       | effects. Worse than antipsychotics. I lost my ability to sit
       | still because of SSRI's, now I must always pace due to this
       | strange inner restlessness. Learn from my mistakes.
        
       | bookofjoe wrote:
       | Allie Brosh's book "Hyperbole and a Half" for the two chapters
       | "Adventures in Depression" and "Depression Part Two." Excellent
       | for both depressed people and their partners. In fact, for
       | everyone. https://www.amazon.com/Hyperbole-Half-Unfortunate-
       | Situations...
        
       | randycupertino wrote:
       | I was actually suggested this book by someone on Hackernews and
       | it was awesome for me- did more than meds and is pretty easy to
       | follow: The Depression Cure by dr. Stephen Ilardi
       | https://www.amazon.com/Depression-Cure-6-Step-Program-withou...
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       | I still go back and reread certain sections when I feel like I'm
       | struggling.
        
       | brudgers wrote:
       | You can't fix it.
       | 
       | You can possibly help them recover.
       | 
       | But clinical depression is a clinical diagnosis that warrants
       | clinical intervention by a trained clinician. Your role is
       | supportive over the long period of treatment.
       | 
       | You can't fix it because you are so close to the person
       | suffering. Their state will make you angry, sad, etc. because of
       | that.
       | 
       | And in the end, if the person is not treating their mental
       | illness there is not a lot you can do about it. In that sense,
       | it's a bit contagious...not clinically of course...but in the
       | sense that the mental health of the people around you can stress
       | you.
       | 
       | Good luck.
        
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