[HN Gopher] Comma Three Devkit
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Comma Three Devkit
Author : roborovskis
Score : 41 points
Date : 2021-07-31 20:43 UTC (2 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (comma.ai)
| evanescent wrote:
| Has anyone here tried using one of these? On the surface they
| seem to be relatively reliable and safe. I am tempted to get try
| one out since their driver cam gives me confidence that I won't
| become complacent while using one of these self-driving systems.
| jalino23 wrote:
| huge fan of the CEO. inspired me to use vim 7 months ago and it
| increased my productivity
| yewenjie wrote:
| AFAIK Comma.ai is the only open-source company in the self-
| driving cars space. It is very interesting that they are
| continuously launching consumer-products with a small team and in
| a highly competitive space where the other players are quite big.
| alpaca128 wrote:
| They have a more focused approach that simplifies it a lot.
| Where others build whole self-driving cars Comma uses existing
| interfaces and sensors in the vehicle. That's far less
| complexity to worry about.
| stefan_ wrote:
| This does not in any shape or form compete in the self-driving
| cars space; the thing doesn't have a rear camera!
|
| This is basically the "rsync as Dropbox" approach to augmenting
| your car with a hacky version of automatic cruise control, with
| a bonus lawsuit should you ever be in a crash significant
| enough to warrant the attention (think paralysis).
| johnkg wrote:
| Comma claimed today: $8.1M raised, $9M revenue, 5000+ comma twos
| sold, 3500+ active users. Pretty cool for a open source company.
| geoah wrote:
| Need to watch the presentation still but I'd be more interested
| in how many km/miles it has collectively driven.
| valgaze wrote:
| "The comma three devkit does not ship with any software. Once you
| have the device you will be able to install any software you
| choose at your own risk."
| bitwidget wrote:
| Makes sense, if they shipped with the software already
| preinstalled, it would mean that they open themselves up to
| liability and other legal issues. So they don't have it
| installed as it's pretty easy to download and install from
| their Github
| bertil wrote:
| I'm generally not a fan of that kind of fig-leaf (say "we are
| not sharing weapons, just information" when encouraging
| people to print a gun-shaped bobby trap that is more likely
| to blow your hand than change anyone's mind about gun
| control) but in this case, the veneer of technical engagement
| seems to filter for, or encourage people who are excited
| enough by self-driving that they actually pay attention and
| send feedback.
| seniorivn wrote:
| that wasn't an original plan, but they were prohibited to
| sell selfdriving kits, this is the workaround that works
| robbedpeter wrote:
| It's very likely a deliberate and precise execution of the
| legal requirements to shield themselves from legal
| liability, under the advice of lawyers. At each step, from
| the coding to the hardware development to installation and
| configuration the responsibility is clear.
|
| The installer of both hardware and software ends up being
| responsible for the use of the system in a way that is much
| more legally clear than other automation systems or even
| consumer software. Deliberate and informed choices are made
| by entities completely outside the plausible influence of
| developers.
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| It could get tricky in cases where the installer is not the
| end user.
| faebi wrote:
| Dave Lee recently had an interesting interview with George Hotz
| about self-driving cars and the future of AI:
| https://youtu.be/q6iagfjs83U
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