[HN Gopher] Crowdfunding Backer Patented My Project (2018)
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Crowdfunding Backer Patented My Project (2018)
Author : optimalsolver
Score : 68 points
Date : 2021-07-30 21:41 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| breck wrote:
| Shameless plug: Help us pass a constitutional amendment to
| abolish patents and copyrights (https://www.reddit.com/r/ifa/).
|
| Safety not guaranteed. I have only done this once before.
| dang wrote:
| Discussed at the time:
|
| _Crowdfunding Backer Patented My Project_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18568641 - Nov 2018 (46
| comments)
| asxd wrote:
| Wow, what a journey. I'm glad the original authors took such a
| rational and mentally healthy approach to such a frustrating
| situation.
|
| On the plus side, I'd never heard of Chibitronics, but it seems
| so approachable that I am now strongly considering getting some
| of the starter kits for my 8 y/o nephew :)
| toss1 wrote:
| Nice lesson that a patent, other than some possible value to the
| marketing dept, is nothing more than a a ticket to start a
| lawsuit.
|
| It does not actually prevent anyone else from infringing or doing
| what they want, unless and until they hire the lawyers to attempt
| to enforce it.
|
| Having a lot of published prior art may form a decent moat. Sure,
| you'll have to defend, but if you fold, they get nothing, and if
| you sustain the defense, they'll likely lose the patent entirely.
|
| She also makes a very good point about bridging patent- light and
| patent-heavy sectors/cultures.
|
| Also relevant is Musk's choice with SpaceX at the other end of
| the scale -- to forego patents entirely in favor of the trade
| secret route. He figures that publishing in a patent would just
| be tantamount to publishing manuals for the Chinese and also be
| unenforceable...
|
| Patents sometimes seem almost magic, but they're really quite
| limited.
| jwilber wrote:
| Wow, what an actual leech of a human this Jill MacKay.
|
| Disgusting sense of greed and lack of morals.
| darig wrote:
| Did you do any research of your own to validate these claims,
| or do you just spout libel on command?
|
| Disgusting.
| dang wrote:
| Please don't fulminate or call names on HN. You may not owe a
| rogue patenter better, but you owe this community better if
| you're participating here.
|
| Please review the site guidelines and stick to them:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
| jwilber wrote:
| Sure.
|
| Wow, what an actual leech of a human, the literal subject of
| the linked essay.
|
| Disgusting sense of greed and lack of morals.
| musesum wrote:
| You can sue in Pro Per(son) -- essential act as your own lawyer.
| I know someone who studied the Law so he could sue his former
| business partners. Most of it was a reverse deep pockets kinda
| game: "It will cost you $300K in legal fees to defend yourself
| ... or settle for a fraction of the cost." As a result, I and
| colleagues ignore this troll. But, there are intriguing
| implications ...
|
| For example: register the site patent<patent#>.com and use the
| site to link to the facts. Maybe add the legal definition of "In
| Pro Person." Thus, when someone does a search on the Patent #,
| your disclosure site will appear.
|
| Another example: Claim copyright on the expression of the idea.
| Thus, anyone attempting to express the patent would infringe on
| the copyright.
|
| Disclaimer: IANAL. I could be off-base here. Get a valid legal
| opinion to save yourself some grief. And good luck!
| SV_BubbleTime wrote:
| [2018]
|
| I think the author was also a guest on the Embedded.fm pod cast
| where she or someone from PatentPandas explains the story more.
| [0]
|
| Patent law on all topics can be summed up with one simple phrase.
| Doesn't matter if you're applying, fighting, buying, all your
| prior art, the number of sealed envelopes you mailed yourself,
| testimony, claims, or anything else on the topic.... When it
| comes to anything patent:
|
| _" You're going to need a lawyer"_
|
| EDIT: Found it, https://embedded.fm/episodes/277
| plumeria wrote:
| What about "Patent It Yourself: Your Step-by-Step Guide to
| Filing at the U.S. Patent Office" by David Pressman?
| kens wrote:
| I applied for a patent after reading that book but was
| unsuccessful (for various reasons). I successfully obtained
| different patents with an attorney. I found what I learned
| from the book to be very helpful when getting patents with an
| attorney.
| plumeria wrote:
| Thanks for sharing your experience, I want to try to patent
| something by myself. How much did you spend using an
| attorney?
| kens wrote:
| Nothing, since I did the successful patents through my
| employer :-)
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