[HN Gopher] Launch HN: Sane IT; mobile mechanics; chat teams; Zo...
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       Launch HN: Sane IT; mobile mechanics; chat teams; Zoom events; spas
       and beauty
        
       Here's the second issue of our new Launch HN format ("Meet the
       Batch") - previous one was
       https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27930562, meta is at
       https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27877280.  There are 5
       startups in this thread. The order is randomized. Here are direct
       links.  Odiggo (YC S21) - Connect car owners with mobile mechanics
       in the Middle East https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27996058
       Genuity (YC S21) - SaaS for companies to manage IT and buy business
       software https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27996059  DailyBot
       (YC S21) - Chatbot and toolkit for team collaboration and
       asynchronous work https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27996060
       Virtually (YC S20) - Easily manage Zoom events
       https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27996061  Glitzi (YC S21) -
       At-home beauty and spa services for Latin America
       https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27996062
        
       Author : dang
       Score  : 57 points
       Date   : 2021-07-29 13:09 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
       | athenot wrote:
       | For a moment, I thought all these things were from 1 company that
       | specializes in providing benefits to workforce... until I noticed
       | it's "Launch HN", not "Show HN" :)
        
         | jffry wrote:
         | I was also attempting to work out how a company called "Sane
         | IT" was undertaking such myriad endeavors. It was an
         | accidentally good hook to get me to read more!
        
           | verdverm wrote:
           | Launch HN in groups of 5 since there are so many companies
           | now
           | 
           | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27877280
        
             | jffry wrote:
             | Yeah I got that, I just didn't quite catch the "Launch HN"
             | instead of "Show HN" prefix on this post at first glance
        
       | 1123581321 wrote:
       | The titles for these crack me up. Each time I quickly imagine one
       | startup incorporating all the descriptions.
        
         | codetrotter wrote:
         | Same here. Even though as recently as yesterday I was wondering
         | when the next installment of the launch HN group thread was
         | going to be posted, and I even checked dang's submissions
         | yesterday to see if I'd missed one. And yet I read this title
         | and for each word I read my jaw opened more and more as I was
         | imagining one startup doing all of these things xD
        
         | tobr wrote:
         | I thought it was some keyword stuffing SEO spam that had
         | accidentally ended up on the frontpage.
         | 
         | Cramming multiple unrelated things into one post like this
         | doesn't feel very HN-y.
        
         | antupis wrote:
         | Sane it for mobile chats would be pretty good startup idea.
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | dang wrote:
         | Not sure how to do the titles for these so I'm kind of winging
         | it. The names of the startups wouldn't mean anything to most
         | readers, and might not fit in the 80 char limit anyhow. The
         | current style is kind of inspired by The Browser newsletter,
         | which digs up assorted links on the web.
         | 
         | If anyone has a different idea for what to put in the title
         | field for these, I'm all ears!
         | 
         | Edit: do semicolons help?
        
           | throwaway889900 wrote:
           | You could say "Launch HN Batch" instead of just "Launch HN",
           | which would give enough context to the following text without
           | making the title too long.
        
           | 1123581321 wrote:
           | I think semicolons may help. Will have to see when I read the
           | next one. By the way, I didn't mean my comment to be mean-
           | spirited.
        
             | dang wrote:
             | Oh no worries! like I said it sort of does the same to me.
             | 
             | Edit: oh - I guess I originally said that but then edited
             | it out.
        
           | verdverm wrote:
           | I still had the same feeling after the ';' edit. (didn't see
           | it beforehand)
           | 
           | Perhaps with time we will recall this new format. This is my
           | first time seeing it and I had to read the initial blurb
           | before remembering you posted this 10 days ago
           | 
           | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27877280
        
       | rexreed wrote:
       | I'm seeing a trend of apps that help to (micro)manage distributed
       | / remote workforces. Virtually keeps track of who is late and no-
       | show to Zoom events, Dailybot has automated standups that
       | basically keeps tabs on employee work and productivity.
       | 
       | I'm curious to hear from the founders as to what motivated the
       | creation of the apps and whether WFH plays a significant part in
       | the value proposition. Would you need either app in a traditional
       | work-from-office environment?
        
         | asdff wrote:
         | >Virtually keeps track of who is late and no-show to Zoom
         | events
         | 
         | Wow, back to high school. They don't track attendance in
         | undergrad even. Why do companies need this sort of information?
         | If the person is important to the meeting, them being a no show
         | will be pretty evident. If they are so irrelevant to the
         | meeting that they could just dip out and no one would be the
         | wiser, why are they even wasting their time in the zoom meeting
         | to begin with? Just email whatever information you need to get
         | out if the zoom meeting is going to just be an announcement or
         | one sided lecture.
         | 
         | It also wouldn't be hard to write a little script that
         | automatically connects you to zoom meetings that are coming up.
         | You probably only need a few lines of bash to write your own if
         | you have a tool like icalbuddy where you can grep for upcoming
         | zoom meetings in your calendar.
        
         | maomorales wrote:
         | DailyBot was born out of our own need - we've been WFH for many
         | years and needed to stay in-sync with each other. There was a
         | behavior we were not happy about: managers or people coming to
         | others asking about what they're working on or requesting
         | status updates, often. We wanted to change that behavior with
         | our product, if you get some written updates on a periodic
         | basis, the team will get more aligned, managers won't need to
         | bother (that frequent), and likely you'll reduce the amount of
         | unnecessary meetings.
         | 
         | Then we started extending the product around async work
         | practices. Traditional work-from-office environments can indeed
         | benefit from improving collaboration practices, getting more
         | work done inside the chat, and (of course) decreasing the
         | pointless meetings for things that could be written updates.
         | 
         | It could happen that teams use DailyBot improperly for micro-
         | management purposes - that's why we're also creating a catalog
         | of best practices and proper question templates; asking the
         | right questions is key. We'll go further by adding more
         | features to DailyBot so it becomes a highly useful personal
         | assistant at work.
        
           | ciguy wrote:
           | How is this different than established players in the space
           | like GeekBot?
        
             | maomorales wrote:
             | We're building a whole ecosystem of tools and add-ons for
             | async work. Bots like geekbot are focused on stand-ups, and
             | this is only a piece of what we're doing now - our goal is
             | to replace several bots/apps with our toolkit, and
             | implement security standards that are not followed by
             | current bots; we're also available in more chat apps, not
             | only in Slack.
             | 
             | DailyBot lets you give kudos to teammates, have a
             | watercooler in a chat channel, random 1:1 coffees, run a
             | virtual commute that reminds you to disconnect from work
             | each day, run countdowns, pomodoros, and more. You can even
             | build public web forms that are connected to your chat
             | channels through the bot. In the end, we want to make the
             | chat 10x better and at the same time provide only one
             | dashboard that connects all that data.
             | 
             | Our product is extendable: you can connect your check-in
             | responses to over thousands of apps through Zapier, and
             | build your own chat commands without technical knowledge.
             | For example: you can create a command that responds with
             | your predefined text, like to access information quickly
             | inside the chat, or to trigger a form, or get data from
             | your back office tools, kind of useful for chat-ops.
             | 
             | We created a 2min video that shows a bit of it:
             | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHZnGl4c-9g
        
       | ahmedomar701 wrote:
       | We are Ahmed Nasser and Ahmed Omar of Odiggo (YC S21). We connect
       | car owners with mobile mechanics in the Middle East. Our mobile
       | app lets you schedule a tire change, an oil change, replacing any
       | car part, or basically any service for your car in minutes. The
       | mechanics come to where your car is.
       | 
       | As a kid I used to wake up very early on Friday to fix or do
       | something to my fathers car, it was like a never ending process.
       | Since then I always had one question, why can't the mechanic come
       | to me? I started my own ecommerce setup during college, and then
       | started an app back in 2014 for car owners to book their regular
       | car service checkup online, but it was a disaster as customers
       | booked but garages would not use any of our tech. Then in 2017 we
       | started a marketplace selling pre-owned cars online, but
       | eventually we pivoted and returned to my old idea, thinking that
       | enough had changed that now it would be possible.
       | 
       | So now users can download Odiggo, add their car information
       | (make-model-year), then find all the services and products that
       | are compatible with their cars in one single app. Not only that,
       | with certain APIs and integrations that we are working on, you
       | (as a car owner) will be able to connect the car to the app to
       | automate the process.
       | 
       | Our average user spends almost 7% of their life in their car. We
       | can at least save them the hassle of going to the mechanic and
       | wasting time and effort. We want to make this service as easy as
       | buying your groceries and be the fastest out there. Looking
       | forward to hearing your comments!
        
         | foolinaround wrote:
         | the tools at a garage are very physical - a good jack that
         | raises the car up feet vs inches, all the tools that might come
         | handy, additional supplies, etc?
         | 
         | I once had a mechanic come to my place, then he realized that
         | due to a leak, he needed a different supply that is not there,
         | then had to reschedule an appt etc.
        
         | jchallis wrote:
         | Hi Ahmed - I'm a very heavy user of YourMechanic in the US. One
         | of the biggest benefits I've heard for mechanics is that
         | without the overhead of a garage they can run their own
         | operations much more profitably. Being able to recruit good
         | mechanics who have more favorable economics lead to happier
         | customers.
        
         | galuggus wrote:
         | Are you seeing a lot of growth?
         | 
         | Is this just for maintenance or includes repairs?
        
       | skulle16 wrote:
       | Hey HN, I'm Colum, a co-founder of Genuity
       | (https://www.gogenuity.com) - a SaaS platform for companies to
       | manage IT: things like keeping track of laptops, managing
       | employee support requests, and buying software at wholesale
       | prices. We are trying to solve two major problems: (1) there is
       | no QuickBooks of IT - most IT solutions are costly, hard-to-use
       | enterprise offerings; and (2) lower volume = higher prices. We
       | believe we can fix (1) with better software and (2) with a
       | marketplace with collective buying power - effectively building a
       | community that grows stronger together.
       | 
       | At my previous company we paid full price for all our software,
       | not realizing that larger companies were able to get 50%
       | discounts. We didn't have a central system to track everything
       | like our assets, contracts, vendor licenses, and support
       | requests. We even had a seven-figure contract auto-renew for a
       | service we were migrating away from because nobody tracked it.
       | Painful!
       | 
       | We have a unique business model designed to align our interests
       | with customers: we charge $29 per company monthly and a small %
       | on all transactions in our marketplace. This means if we can't
       | save companies money, we won't make any.
       | 
       | We'd love to hear your feedback and would be thrilled if you
       | would sign up at
       | https://secure.gogenuity.com/users/sign_up/about_you and try it
       | and let us know what you think!
        
         | dsr_ wrote:
         | Genuity was a data-center operator in Arizona; it was purchased
         | by GTE, then used as the name for the network operating company
         | which was later sold by Verizon to Level3. L3 was bought by
         | CenturyLink, now part of Lumen.
         | 
         | I suspect Lumen still owns the Genuity trademark for network
         | related activities, and IT management is rather close to that.
        
           | skulle16 wrote:
           | Great memory. When GTE merged with Bell Atlantic to form
           | Verizon, they had to spin out their Internet assets which
           | became Genuity. Genuity was a large publicly traded ISP but
           | ultimately went Ch 11 when Verizon did not buy them. Level 3
           | bought their assets, Qwest (now Lumen) bought Level 3 .
           | 
           | We always liked the name and did check on the mark.
        
             | skulle16 wrote:
             | Qwest became Centurylink then Lumen :).
        
         | pizzetta wrote:
         | How can one tell how much is being saved through your service
         | compared to contracting directly with a SaaS (Box, Okta, for
         | example.) keeping in mind, that rarely are list prices what
         | small companies pay to begin with, though admittedly, larger
         | companies can get bigger discounts.
         | 
         | When technical issues come up, does one get support directly
         | from the vendor; if not, how does that work?
        
           | skulle16 wrote:
           | Thanks for taking a look and great questions. The premise of
           | Genuity is smaller customers can get better pricing together
           | by bundling lower demand into a single delivery system.
           | Typically, smaller companies are harder to reach and service
           | with a direct salesforce and are typically services by
           | resellers and VARs like CDW. We believe our model lowers
           | costs for customers but also the vendors by cutting the fat
           | out of the system using software. As an example, we are
           | running a promotion on MSFT and save customers 15% versus
           | what is on their site. In the future we are also thinking of
           | allowing customers to share what they are paying as well.
           | 
           | Also, today in our marketplace we integrate these apps
           | directly for billing, provision, etc. so we handle all the
           | support elements.
        
       | maomorales wrote:
       | Hi HN -- we're Mauricio and Sergio from DailyBot
       | (https://www.dailybot.com). We provide tools for async work and
       | team collaboration. It's currently a chatbot with support for
       | Slack, MS Teams, G Chat, and Discord and others coming soon.
       | Here's a 2-minute video:
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHZnGl4c-9g
       | 
       | We've been working in distributed teams for over 6 years and even
       | for us, async work was still challenging. We faced pains like
       | having too many meetings. overusing calls, and processes that
       | could and should be chat-driven, automated, or optimized. We
       | wanted some sort of chat assistant that we could adapt to our
       | daily workflows. We found a few bots with partial solutions but
       | they didn't care much about privacy and security, and we didn't
       | want to cobble a bunch of different apps together. So we started
       | building a tool for teams like us!
       | 
       | DailyBot adds features that don't exist in Slack - our goal is to
       | replace many apps/bots you use, all integrated in one and with a
       | web dashboard that combines insights from these add-ons in a
       | simple way. You can use @DailyBot to automate daily stand-ups,
       | periodic team check-ins, give kudos to your teammates, track team
       | morale, and even run a virtual watercooler or random 1:1 coffees
       | across the company. All inside your chat. We also made it
       | customizable so teams can build their own chat commands that
       | respond with predefined texts or with data from their APIs.
       | 
       | We're building it with security and privacy in mind: we don't
       | read messages from Slack channels, nor private conversations,
       | except when you tag @dailybot. We use granular scopes and get
       | only the necessary API permissions, we encrypt data in transit
       | and at rest and implement different roles/permissions at the web
       | dashboard. DailyBot is being used mainly by product and
       | engineering teams, to run stand-ups, agile routines and build
       | their own chat commands. We offer a free trial, and seat-based
       | pricing starting at $3/mo/user.
       | 
       | We'd love to hear any ideas on how you would like to see chat
       | assistants evolving, for example: a) a command to send anonymous
       | feedback to a person; or b) a better reminder feature, etc.
       | Looking forward to hearing your thoughts and feedback!
        
         | vladsanchez wrote:
         | @maomorales Thanks and congrats on a great product! I've been
         | using DailyBot for a long time now for daily standups and it's
         | the best way to keep everyone accountable and best way to end
         | stupid and unnecessary meetings. Mil Gracias! Wish you
         | continued success.
        
           | maomorales wrote:
           | Oh, thanks! I shared this comment with my team - they're the
           | ones behind what we're building. I'm glad to see you're
           | finding value in what we're doing. Stay tuned for what's
           | coming next!
        
         | finkin1 wrote:
         | Hi - this looks like a service that would be valuable to my
         | remote team.
         | 
         | I'm interested to know the pricing before signing up. I'm
         | curious what the reasoning is behind hiding the pricing behind
         | a signup process.
        
           | maomorales wrote:
           | We landed at this pricing: $3/mo per user (in a basic plan)
           | and $5/mo per user in a standard plan that includes more
           | security features, anonymous check-ins, culture/team values
           | for kudos, API/webhooks, and some other details.
           | 
           | The reasoning behind hiding pricing: we've been running a/b
           | tests for different pricing setups inside our web app. We had
           | to hide it from the public page because of a technical
           | limitation in our a/b implementation. Public site and web app
           | are completely separated and we didn't want to spend time
           | integrating more things to track users/sync info between both
           | apps - it soon will be over.
        
             | sanedigital wrote:
             | Super interested in your product as an alternative to
             | GeekBot. But putting a "Pricing" page in your navigation
             | and then _not having pricing on that page_ is pretty
             | aggravating.
        
               | maomorales wrote:
               | I appreciate your feedback. We're moving fast here to
               | solve that confusion, and it's done:
               | https://www.dailybot.com/pricing
        
       | ishbaid wrote:
       | I'm Ish, the founder of Virtually
       | https://www.tryvirtually.com/calendar. We're the easiest way to
       | manage Zoom events for private communities.
       | 
       | Managing virtual events for more than a few people is a pain.
       | Either you paste emails from spreadsheets into Google calendar or
       | you rely on internal mailing lists, which get out of date and
       | make calendar invites hard. If you want to do events for
       | subgroups, or send out reminders, or track attendance, it gets
       | worse. We make it all easy, for both one-off and recurring
       | events.
       | 
       | We initially built Virtually as an LMS (Learning Management
       | System) for online bootcamps in YC's S20 batch. However, over the
       | past year we learned that our users love us specifically for
       | managing their events. So we split out our events manager into
       | its own product.
       | 
       | We've got an API that can sync with any database, for example to
       | keep track of rosters or roles, and a Zapier integration is
       | coming. Also, the same technology can be used to send out
       | announcements in a targeted way. This will be a prominent feature
       | in an upcoming release.
       | 
       | Our customers include some top cohort-based programs like
       | Building a Second Brain, Flockjay, and Ali Abdaal's PTYA.
       | Building a Second Brain used us to manage 150 live sessions for
       | 1500 students. Throughout their 5-week program, we facilitated
       | 7900 session joins. I would love to hear any feedback that the HN
       | community might have for us!
        
         | pionar wrote:
         | Are you worried about Zoom basically taking your idea and
         | baking into their product?
         | 
         | Also, what does this have to do with Zoom specifically? Is it
         | just the attendance tracking?
        
           | RankingMember wrote:
           | Teams already has this, so it's only a matter of time before
           | Zoom adds it.
        
           | ishbaid wrote:
           | There's always risk of a big company doing this, but in
           | general, no. We're not worried.
           | 
           | Most startups die by suicide, not homicide.
        
         | rexreed wrote:
         | What is the intent for showing how many people were late or no-
         | shows? Is this app for internal meetings? That would explain
         | the no-show / attendance thing.
         | 
         | Or is it for external events? In which case, what is the
         | importance about late attendees. No-shows is to be expected,
         | especially for free events (And even paid events have a
         | substantial no-show rate).
         | 
         | I'm confused as to who the intended customer audience is meant
         | to be.
        
           | ishbaid wrote:
           | I totally see your confusion. Our intended audience is online
           | cohort-based programs.
           | 
           | Think online courses, bootcamps, or private commmunities.
           | 
           | Google calendar is great for 1-on-1 and small groups, but
           | when you're managing hundreds of zoom events for a number of
           | different subgroups within a larger community, it's a
           | nightmare.
        
           | llampx wrote:
           | I used to do meetups for some hobbies before the pandemic.
           | For me, managing no-shows is very important. Many events have
           | an attendance limit, and everyone who flakes takes space from
           | someone who intended on going.
           | 
           | I only started getting no-shows and late cancellations under
           | control once I started kicking people out for doing more than
           | X no-shows. Also, it really helps to take money for reserving
           | a spot, contrary to your assertion.
           | 
           | For me, especially with pandemic restrictions, managing no-
           | shows is a very important feature.
        
             | rexreed wrote:
             | I run dozens of events a year. Online and even now in-
             | person. I don't have any "space" issues with virtual
             | events. Which platform that you're using has registered
             | attendee limits (vs. actual live attendee limits) and how
             | does a no-show at a virtual event take away space from
             | someone who is going?
             | 
             | All the streaming / event platforms I use charge based on
             | actual viewers and attendees or active users on the
             | platform. If I had a limit of 100 live, I could literally
             | have 1000 people registered with 900 no-shows and that
             | wouldn't be any issue. The no-shows are not taking anything
             | away from the shows.
             | 
             | The only reason to manage no-shows is to manage active
             | engagement. And that's more of a community building thing
             | than a platform thing.
             | 
             | Virtually, from what I can tell, is managing Zoom events,
             | which are entirely online events, so live in-person
             | attendee limits don't seem to be a factor here.
        
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       | Anahi2016 wrote:
       | We are Ana and Luis, the founders of Glitzi
       | (https://glitzi.com.mx/). We provide certified beauty and spa
       | services, same day and delivered at home, in Latin America.
       | 
       | In Latam, lack of regulations and licencing means that people
       | struggle to access quality beauty and wellness services. Beauty
       | salons and spas also offer very poor working conditions to
       | professionals, who live mostly off tips or low commissions. As a
       | Latin woman I always thought this was normal, but when I lived
       | abroad I realized that it has more to do with lack of licensing
       | standards. Latin men and women spend significantly more on these
       | types of services than any other region. We deserve better!
       | 
       | Our platform connects customers with vetted, trained independent
       | beauty and spa professionals. We allocate each appointment to the
       | best suited professional in our network according to
       | availability, distance and skills. We also train our
       | professionals based on standardized protocols that we have
       | developed, so we are becoming the quality standard in the
       | industry. Most startups in this space in Latam are SaaS solutions
       | for salons or spas. We believe in empowering who really matters
       | in this space: the customers and the professionals. And it's
       | really both: happy professionals are as important as happy
       | customers.
       | 
       | Some of our best customers are working mothers and business
       | owners who have little time to take care of themselves or go to
       | the spa or salon. 95% of our network of third-party professionals
       | are women who can decide when and how many hours they work at
       | Glitzi, therefore they can continue with their professional
       | careers when they become mothers. Not only that, but they can
       | earn a lot more (as much as 3x more) than in salons or spas.
       | 
       | Comments, questions, and feedback are welcome!
        
         | unixhero wrote:
         | CDMX only :(
        
           | Anahi2016 wrote:
           | CDMX and QRO only (for now) :)
        
             | unixhero wrote:
             | I get why. But why not MTY. Those maggafakkers in San Pedro
             | are _riiiiiiiiich_.
        
               | Anahi2016 wrote:
               | Soon. We want to perfection our product before we take
               | all Mexico and then Latam!!!
        
         | sergiomattei wrote:
         | Wow, this is a very real problem and I'm glad to see it
         | addressed.
         | 
         | Every Friday my Abuela calls a stranger for manicure/pedicure
         | they've known for years that she heard about from another
         | friend, from another friend... Word of mouth, like most things
         | in LatAm. They're not certified or anything, but they do a
         | decent job.
         | 
         | I've always wondered about their background because they seem
         | to hang out for too long at the house, and it sketches me out.
         | 
         | On my end, finding a good barber shop or beauty salon for my
         | hair has always been a huge pain. The quality of cuts is
         | extremely variable and online reviews are scarce, aside from
         | maybe Facebook. There's no scarcity for cheap $10 cuts but the
         | variability is incredible in quality. Some dude at the $10
         | barber shop could be a fantastic, trained stylist. But then
         | next time you come in some other asshat ruins your hair.
         | 
         | Aka it's a bit of a crapshoot but it's all you know and what's
         | accessible. I'm a broke college student and can't afford much
         | more than that.
         | 
         | You're damn right that the beauty industry in LatAm is a bit of
         | a wild west. I have a quick question: what are costs for
         | customers like?
        
           | Anahi2016 wrote:
           | Hi Sergio! Exactly what you are describing is what we want to
           | solve: we want you to be confident that you will get a
           | standard quality service when you book with Glitzi. Now, we
           | have learned that good professionals (trained and using good
           | quality products) invest in their work & tools, therefore,
           | they expect a higher pay than a cheap non-quality service
           | (and that makes sense!). So our prices are not cheap but are
           | not crazy expensive (also consider that these services are
           | at-home, the professionals have to travel to your house). Our
           | haircuts for men are $18 dollars. However, we think that as
           | Glitzi grows (we have more bookings), we will be able to
           | reduce prices as professionals will earn the same or more but
           | will have more appointments per day.
        
         | dksidana wrote:
         | Congratulations on launch. We , Urbancompany.com, have launched
         | similar services (and more services like plumbers, technicians
         | as well) in India around 6 years back and few countries in
         | Asia. Customer response has been really positive.
        
           | Anahi2016 wrote:
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