[HN Gopher] The Third User or Why Apple Keeps Doing Foolish Things
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The Third User or Why Apple Keeps Doing Foolish Things
Author : lykahb
Score : 14 points
Date : 2021-07-27 18:10 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| uniqueid wrote:
| (2013)
| quantified wrote:
| Quite so, yet unchanged.
| pedrogpimenta wrote:
| What's the problem with the Dock?
| quantified wrote:
| Using a Mac for work but not play, I'm struck all the time not
| only by things like disappearing scroll bars (sometimes too
| quickly) but also by a general lack of attention to Fitt's Law
| and high density of secret handshakes. (How do you see hidden
| files in Finder? As a default? How do you copy-paste file or
| folder paths between terminal and Finder? Anyone?) For daily
| usefulness, at least the Windows UI gets usefulness and discovery
| generally right. I know this'll garner a lot of downvotes, but a
| single gesture to get to the top or bottom of a doc or page is
| extremely handy instead of finding the scroll bar and holding
| down the button as the window pages, or just mashing the down-
| arrow.
|
| Apple wins the Pepsi Challenge for the same reasons, sweet and
| fizzy in your first taste. Some like the full drink, many don't.
| pfranz wrote:
| > How do you copy-paste file or folder paths between terminal
| and Finder?
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| Cmd-C the file in Finder and Cmd-V in Terminal pastes the
| escaped path. You can also drag and drop the file. To go the
| other way I used the `open` command (which acts like clicking
| something in Finder). For example, `open .` or Cmd-Shift-G (Go
| -> Go to Folder...)
|
| On laptops, Fn-Left Arrow (Home) scrolls to the top and Fn-
| Right Arrow scrolls to the bottom (End). I agree it's not
| obvious, but it's more ergonomic than moving your hand to where
| the Home/End traditionally are on a keyboard. It's also exactly
| the same as on a 'LG 17" gram Laptop'--the second image result
| when I searched for "laptop."
|
| I don't slight people who prefer Windows and won't argue macOS
| gets things right, either, but I find the Windows UI
| frustrating especially in tandem with a terminal. I used
| Windows exclusively from 1 or 3-whatever until XP, dropped it,
| then took a job when 10 was first being released and tried to
| give it an honest try. I'm sure it's just my familiarity and
| preference, but I greatly prefer macOS and almost any Linux GUI
| to Windows.
| mrtesthah wrote:
| > _How do you see hidden files in Finder?
|
| Command-Shift-Period
|
| >_As a default?*
|
| defaults write com.apple.Finder AppleShowAllFiles true; killall
| Finder
|
| > _How do you copy-paste file or folder paths between terminal
| and Finder?_
|
| Drag and drop the icon into a Terminal window.
|
| And regarding gestures or shortcuts, if you put in the same
| effort that you did for Windows, you can find everything you
| need on the Mac.
|
| https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201236
| jquast wrote:
| Also, pbpaste, pbcopy CLI commands, equivalent of Linux
| xclip, and "open ." Opens a finder window at the folder, or
| "open filename" to open with a preferred application,
| equivalent to linux's xdg-open.
| voltaireodactyl wrote:
| I'm also a big fan of right-click + option, which gives you
| the ability to copy the path name of the highlighted
| file/folder in Finder.
| mrtesthah wrote:
| FYI Regular copy (Command-C) of the file from Finder
| already uses the path representation upon paste into
| Terminal.
| DaiPlusPlus wrote:
| > but a single gesture to get to the top or bottom of a doc or
| page is extremely handy instead of finding the scroll bar and
| holding down the button as the window pages, or just mashing
| the down-arrow.
|
| Home/End on macOS typically jump to the start and end of a
| document - which annoys me as I prefer Home/End to jump to the
| beginning and end of the current line - I just don't like
| Ctrl+ArrowKeys, and the Cmd-key tires my pinky. At least macOS
| let's you remap Cmd/Ctrl/Alt - I wish Windows would do the
| same.
| nonameiguess wrote:
| I'm reading this on a M1 Air right now and see keys across
| the bottom of my keyboard labeled "fn," "control," "option,"
| and "command." So I ask, in all sincerity, which keys are
| home and end?
| jciochon wrote:
| Ctrl-a and ctrl-e will go to the beginning and end of a line
| respectively in most places on Mac. There are many of the
| "standard" Linux/unix keybinds available for most apps.
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