[HN Gopher] The Nightmare of Our Snooping Phones
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       The Nightmare of Our Snooping Phones
        
       Author : gmays
       Score  : 82 points
       Date   : 2021-07-23 15:15 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.nytimes.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.nytimes.com)
        
       | Natfan wrote:
       | https://archive.is/u2X5t
        
       | uhtred wrote:
       | I've been using /e/ on my android phone and it has been working
       | great for me. https://e.foundation/
        
       | sydd wrote:
       | Is there some info on how they tracked him? Just bought some
       | public data, that was so badly anonymized, that it could be
       | correlated with his public visits?
        
         | AlexCoventry wrote:
         | > _The Pillar_ correlated a unique mobile device to Burrill
         | when it was used consistently from 2018 until at least 2020
         | from the USCCB staff residence and headquarters, from meetings
         | at which Burrill was in attendance, and was also used on
         | numerous occasions at Burrill's family lake house, near the
         | residences of Burrill's family members, and at a Wisconsin
         | apartment in Burrill's hometown, at which Burrill himself has
         | been listed as a resident.
         | 
         | https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/pillar-investigates-usccb-g...
        
         | mariodiana wrote:
         | If I remember correctly, from reading the original story that
         | broke this news, location data at the rectory he was living in
         | correlated with location data at various conferences he
         | attended. That was sufficient to identify the anonymized data
         | as his phone.
        
       | panzagl wrote:
       | Guess I'll never know because of the Nightmare of My Snooping
       | Browser and it's Collusion with the NYTimes Snooping Server.
        
         | LolWolf wrote:
         | _Harry Potter and the Snooping Browser in Collusion with the
         | NYT_ is my favorite book of the series
         | 
         | Kidding aside, it's a little difficult to swallow some of this
         | stuff when it's coming from websites like this. Sure, I
         | understand there is a huge hierarchy of how the NYT, et al.,
         | operate (and of course the set of writers and the people who
         | choose the website's operations are likely fairly disjoint),
         | but it's still somehow vaguely painful to watch.
        
           | 3grdlurker wrote:
           | I mean, people disagree with their employers all the time.
        
       | titzer wrote:
       | In their "steps to avoid location tracking of your phone", add
       | this to the list:
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       | 5. Disable "high accuracy location" on Android phones.
       | 
       | This mode enables a range of data harvesting by Google Location
       | Services that includes detailed sensor traces fused with GPS,
       | WiFi, and others. Google claims that this information is used in
       | an "anonymous" way to "improve their services", but location data
       | is not, and cannot be, anonymized. The resolution of data
       | harvested here is nothing short of Orwellian, and you just gotta
       | trust Google (as well as all governments that have subpoena and
       | NSL authority over it) now and in perpetuity. No thanks!
        
         | josefx wrote:
         | > enables a range of data harvesting by Google Location
         | Services that includes detailed sensor traces fused with GPS,
         | WiFi, and others
         | 
         | Brought to you by the company that got caught war driving while
         | running Google Streetview and sniffing for passwords and emails
         | transmitted. All signed of by management[1], despite initial
         | attempts to throw the hacker they hired for it under the bus.
         | 
         | [1] https://www.darkreading.com/risk/google-wardriving-how-
         | engin...
        
           | justinsaccount wrote:
           | "got caught" -> voluntarily disclosed
           | 
           | "sniffing for passwords and emails" -> collecting unencrypted
           | data broadcast to anyone nearby.
           | 
           | If you believe them (which you might not, since you seem to
           | have issues here) they never even looked at any of this data
           | once they realized what the software was collecting.
        
         | wrs wrote:
         | Recent iOS versions have a choice between precise or general
         | location permission for apps, no longer just on or off. So of
         | those few apps I give permission, even fewer get precise
         | location.
        
         | autoexec wrote:
         | One of the issues with 5G is that you're always handing over
         | your location using "high accuracy location" resolution and you
         | can't disable it. Your cell phone company always had your
         | location but it used to be accurate within a mile or so, but
         | because 5G will have "towers" everywhere you can be located
         | within a few feet of where you're standing.
         | 
         | Also I can't read the article, but hopefully disabling
         | bluetooth is in there. Phones are being tracked via beacons
         | that just collect the ID of every device that passes in range.
        
           | titzer wrote:
           | I am not talking about triangulation via towers and signal
           | strength, rather GPS, accelerometer, and WiFi traces recorded
           | on-device.
        
             | dTal wrote:
             | And parent expanded on that.
        
       | cratermoon wrote:
       | Zero trust principles apply.
        
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