[HN Gopher] Emmanuel Macron identified in leaked Pegasus project...
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Emmanuel Macron identified in leaked Pegasus project data
Author : SalimoS
Score : 83 points
Date : 2021-07-20 20:50 UTC (2 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.theguardian.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.theguardian.com)
| hanselot wrote:
| Inb4 fifty Liberal agents are deployed to debunk this.
| behindai wrote:
| So, who stands behind the hack? Scary Russians?
| boomboomsubban wrote:
| There wasn't necessarily a hack, I don't think how the
| information leaked has been shared.
| zrth wrote:
| This is great news. The more people in power have been hit, the
| more repercussions we can hope for.
|
| One possible way to force a bit of scrutiny upon NSO group would
| be to crowdfund an Pegasus subscription and use it against
| Netanyahu.
|
| Any serious suggestions what we can do to ensure that in the long
| run there will be less and not more "Hacking for hire" companies
| lending their tools for use against journalists and the
| opposition?
|
| Shit will really hit the fan when the "ransomware as a service"
| discovers the "targeted surveillance as a service" business
| model.. Interesting times to be alive.
| MeinBlutIstBlau wrote:
| > The more people in power have been hit, the more
| repercussions we can hope for.
|
| This reminds me of a story I heard at a presentation when
| working at a bank. A politician was going through a closing
| process for property he was purchasing. He had an issue and
| found out that the banks automatically tac on PMI for his type
| of loan, regardless of loan to value ratios.
|
| A year later, their state passed legislation saying PMI cannot
| be forced on mortgaged loans with certain ratios and must be
| disclosed before closing.
|
| Funny how things work :)
| mixmastamyk wrote:
| Had to look up, PMI = Private mortgage insurance.
| greatgib wrote:
| This looks like a shocking news, but there are probably hundreds
| of countries that are trying to tap on the French and other
| presidents.
|
| This is just the moroccan gov that is too incompetent to do it by
| themselves but have to use a third party consulting firm for the
| job.
|
| And so, there will be no consequence, because all the other
| governments know very well that they are dirty too, so there will
| just be a few soft offense word and then trying to have the
| population forget as fast as possible...
| peteretep wrote:
| > This looks like a shocking news
|
| It _is_ shocking news: the Israelis are essentially selling
| munitions to the Moroccans explicitly for use against the
| French
| mtrovo wrote:
| > Robert Malley, a longtime American diplomat who was chief
| negotiator on the US-Iran deal, and who appears to have been
| selected as a person of interest by Morocco in 2019. NSO has said
| its government clients are prevented from deploying its software
| against US numbers because it has been made "technically
| impossible".
|
| Is there more info about why this is technically impossible or is
| it just their PR way of saying "sorry, the day we do this we're
| screwed as a company"?
| [deleted]
| axiosgunnar wrote:
| I would assume it's a deliberate ,,if number.startsWith("+1")"
| precisely so nobody ends up using it on a US politician or
| whatever who then goes on a rampage.
| notquitehuman wrote:
| Until they release some sort of irrefutable proof, why give
| them the benefit of the doubt? Their track record warrants
| assuming dishonesty.
| boomboomsubban wrote:
| Everyone cares more about the optics of spying on US
| citizens than actually spying on US citizens. Like in this
| example, without the convenient excuse of "it's impossible"
| the headline likely would have been "Pegasus Project spies
| on US diplomat and French President."
| ywain wrote:
| I like to imagine that some developer commented out that line
| to allow for spying on Canadian persons and left a "TODO:
| find better way to identify US numbers" that was never fixed.
| [deleted]
| peteretep wrote:
| That's hilarious, although I suspect "don't hack the US"
| means "don't hack five eyes" in practice
| mike_d wrote:
| NSO effectively operates a SaaS platform for target
| exploitation and collection. They can easily add a restriction
| that prevents specific phone numbers from being targeted.
|
| My guess is that such a restriction is in place to meet
| contractual obligations. If you weaponize an exploit against US
| targets, you'll never get a US based broker to sell further
| exploits to you.
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