[HN Gopher] Torpar: TUI Client for Torrent Paradise (Distributed...
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       Torpar: TUI Client for Torrent Paradise (Distributed Torrent
       Search)
        
       Author : mmastrac
       Score  : 60 points
       Date   : 2021-07-20 16:45 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (github.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (github.com)
        
       | qwerty456127 wrote:
       | What about a screenshot?
        
         | ajklsdhfniuwehf wrote:
         | it's a UI for a service which best known "face" is a blank site
         | with nothing but a search bar.
         | 
         | I guess most people can use their imagination to what it will
         | look like :)
        
           | qwerty456127 wrote:
           | Okay. Thank you. I just am in constant search of a TUI
           | framework I would consider good from my subjective point of
           | view and specifically interested in TUI projects screenshots
           | because of this.
        
       | tribler wrote:
       | Interesting! But the DHT of Bittorrent is filled with spam and
       | fakes. How do you create trustworthy results?
       | 
       | (disclaimer: academic working on this problem for 15+ years,
       | Tribler lab)
        
         | toomuchtodo wrote:
         | Can torrent creators use crypto to sign their torrents on the
         | DHT? That'd allow for reputation signal in the distributed
         | system.
        
           | GekkePrutser wrote:
           | Spotnet, a distributed Usenet indexer does exactly that.
        
           | Liru wrote:
           | It's a "well, yes, but actually no" situation, seeing as some
           | torrent-related programs implement a few draft BEPs. I
           | haven't seen any that support the torrent signing BEP,
           | though. https://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0035.html
        
             | dane-pgp wrote:
             | Which leads to possibly an interesting legal question: If a
             | third-party is vouching for the quality of a given
             | copyright-infringing torrent, are they liable for the
             | copyright-infringement of the people who download that
             | torrent based on its positive rating?
             | 
             | Some jurisdictions have decided that running a search
             | engine for torrents (especially if it doesn't remove
             | results which rights holders claim are leading to copyright
             | infringement) _does_ make the site operator liable.
             | 
             | I suppose if we are being strict, what we are talking about
             | is vouching for the quality of a .torrent metadata file,
             | which can be downloaded by a torrent client without legal
             | problems from the author of that metadata, and it's only
             | when the metadata is used to download the torrent contents
             | that copyright infringement occurs.
             | 
             | The thought experiment I've considered is what would happen
             | if there were a site where people could vote on short hex
             | sequences of a certain length, to decide which sequences
             | are the best. It could be called the "I Rate Bay", because
             | users give each (hash) sequence a rating from 1 to 10.
             | 
             | Of course all of this ignores the fact that by
             | participating in these ratings, someone is probably
             | incriminating themselves by saying they have not only
             | downloaded the torrent contents but
             | read/installed/watched/listened to it. Using that as the
             | basis of a case against someone seems almost reasonable,
             | but pursuing a "contributory infringement" angle strays a
             | little too far into freedom-of-speech violating territory,
             | in my opinion.
        
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           | gcr wrote:
           | in the piracy business, having a cryptographically-verifiable
           | way of proving that you were the one infringing the copyright
           | sounds like an anti-feature to me...
        
             | toomuchtodo wrote:
             | Persona based, not tied to your meatspace identity.
        
         | dTal wrote:
         | Step 1: solve the identity problem to prevent Sybil attacks.
         | 
         | Step 2: some form of blockchain? People could vote/vouch for
         | torrents in a completely distributed way.
        
           | dane-pgp wrote:
           | It seems like just about every major problem with the
           | internet right now would be a lot easier if Step 1 were
           | solved. If it could be solved in a way that also preserved
           | privacy, then the net result could even be positive.
           | 
           | As you mention the "b" word, let me mention one proposed
           | solution to Step 1 which does rely on that technology, and
           | claims it "requires no personal information. It lets you
           | prove your humanness without risking your privacy."
           | 
           | https://www.brightid.org/
        
             | Hello71 wrote:
             | it doesn't seem like it actually uses blockchain? according
             | to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_of_personhood, it's
             | basically PGP WoT but hopefully actually usable?
        
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