[HN Gopher] Black 3.0 - The blackest black acrylic paint
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Black 3.0 - The blackest black acrylic paint
Author : woliveirajr
Score : 195 points
Date : 2021-07-19 13:33 UTC (9 hours ago)
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| kissgyorgy wrote:
| This looks like quite confusing to the eye (brain).
| isoprophlex wrote:
| These ultrablack paints are all carbon nanotube based, right?
|
| Sounds pretty carcinogenic to me. The website makes it out to be
| "non toxic" though. I wonder if I'm too paranoid... anyone knows
| what's the pigment made of, exactly?
| whatshisface wrote:
| Good point. Carbon nanotubes are carcinogenic.
|
| https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5799097/
| NikolaeVarius wrote:
| Well, dont eat paint chips.
| pixl97 wrote:
| More about the dust that is generated when the product is
| used.
| dekhn wrote:
| No, that's vantablack, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vantablack
| for which a company has a patent. I believe black3.0 is much
| more conventional paint (pigment based, rather than structural
| color based) See https://www.ko-pro.black/190516black30/
| masklinn wrote:
| The company's patent is a thing, but as explained down the
| page black 3.0 exists specifically because the company
| granted Anish Kapoor an exclusive artistic use license to
| Vantablack S-VIS, so no other visual artist can use S-VIS.
|
| Also of note: there are variants of Vantablack with aligned
| and unaligned nanotubes, as well as non-nanotubes-based
| variants (the VBx series).
|
| There is also a non-surrey nanotubes-based paint called
| Singularity, created by Nanolab in partnership with Jason
| Chase, and an other "very black" non-nanotubes paint called
| Musou.
|
| I don't know how Musou compares to 3.0, and last time I'd
| checked Singularity was slightly more reflective than Vanta.
| They do have the avantage (for artists) of being available
| though, and Musou and 3.0 are pretty normal paints.
| mike_d wrote:
| To nit pick a bit on "so no other visual artist can use
| S-VIS"
|
| It is not that the company made a deal to exclude other
| artists, but that they made an exception to allow one
| artist.
|
| You as an individual, and likely you as a corporation,
| can't buy Vantablack. You have to provide technical
| drawings and a detailed writeup of your product, submit it
| for review to the company, they send it to the UK
| government, etc. until eventually they tell you it will be
| tens of thousands of dollars to paint something the size of
| a Netgear router and that only their paint shop can apply
| the coating.
| smnrchrds wrote:
| What is Vantablack used for? Besides Anish Kapoor's art,
| is there any information on what else it has been
| incorporated in? I imagine some of its uses are
| classified, but are there some other ones that are known?
| faebi wrote:
| Why are the dashboards of cars not painted in this or similar
| colors? I want to have minimum reflections but the temperature is
| probably the problem.
| nitrogen wrote:
| Polarized sunglasses will significantly reduce the visibility
| of dashboard reflections.
| stan_rogers wrote:
| No, it's because most of the "blackest" finishes are extremely
| delicate, as they rely on a sort of micro-velvet structure to
| trap light as well as absorbing light. There are _relatively_
| sturdy solutions - fabrics, mostly - but they tend to be
| absolute dust magnets, and look rather ratty in a short time
| unless kept scrupulously clean. Between the high maintenance
| and the immediate grunge regardless of maintenance, they don 't
| sell well. (Photographers, on the other hand, love the stuff
| despite the fact that there's an extra few minutes doing a
| detailed tidying before every shot.)
| airstrike wrote:
| https://www.wired.com/story/vantablack-anish-kapoor-stuart-s...
| a9h74j wrote:
| I understand the purposes, but from another angle:
|
| _Bikeshedding has reached a new extreme. We are debating what
| color of black to use._
| a9h74j wrote:
| Update: Did not read and made a low-effort attempt at
| flippancy. Regret. ... Agree 100% about important design
| choices in shades and finishes.
| femto113 wrote:
| At this point the different blacks are less about color and
| more about finish/reflectivity. Even if you decide to paint
| your bikeshed a lovely Celeste green you'd still have to choose
| whether you want eggshell or semigloss.
| Igelau wrote:
| This isn't bikeshedding at all. In art and design, black has
| never been just one color. It's always been a choice of which
| ones to use. Here are some examples from printing:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_black
| aksss wrote:
| Yes, I painted my home theater "black", and ended up down a
| rabbit hole of "well, which black??". Ended up painting the
| ceiling and trim a slightly different black than the walls.
| Probably only I am consciously aware of the difference.
| jasonwatkinspdx wrote:
| So I think you're missing that first, this was motivated as a
| troll, and second, in art variations of black _absolutely_ do
| matter and are not simple bike shedding.
|
| The troll happened because an artist named Anish Kapoor was
| able to negotiate exclusive access to a patented black
| paint/coating based on carbon nanotubes named Vantablack. He's
| the only artist allowed to use it globally. That didn't sit
| well with some people who decided to troll back.
|
| I haven't done any art since I was in my late teens, but at the
| time a couple of my works were focused on very dark subjects. I
| found ordinary acrylic paint just wasn't black enough for what
| I wanted. Eventually I found that spraying liquid India ink
| with an airbrush repeatedly got the effect I was looking for.
| cbsmith wrote:
| Black 3.0 has been around for quite a while, the newest thing is
| Black Mirror:
| https://www.culturehustleusa.com/collections/black/products/...
| alfalfasprout wrote:
| The finish looks quite bad though in that shiny paint. Though
| maybe it can be hand sanded and polished to a piano black
| finish.
| cbsmith wrote:
| I think it's really hard to judge from a photograph, but
| Semple is, if nothing else, a fantastic promoter, so your
| skepticism is warranted.
| amifty wrote:
| Blackest black explains!!!!
| meetups323 wrote:
| A neat material. I had a decorative mirror that unfortunately
| shattered, I was able to paint the backing with this and mount
| the shards atop. Creates a cool contrast, with the mirror
| reflecting nearly 100% of visible light and the the backing
| nearly 0%.
|
| I also took some shards of the mirror and coated them with the
| black, then mounted them throughout the house. It makes it look
| as if some of my universe's texture shards didn't fully load or
| the backface culling algorithm is buggy. :)
|
| It an interesting material to look at, the uniformity gives your
| eye nothing to hold on to, making it hard to focus. I recommend
| trying it out it for anyone interested, the small bottle is
| pretty cheap and covers just over a square meter. (I needed a few
| coats, if you preprocess the surface according to the
| instructions you'd probably lose less to absorption and get more
| coverage)
| Navarr wrote:
| I would love to see a picture of this
| lisper wrote:
| A photo could not possibly capture the effect. Turn your
| monitor off and you will see what a digital photo of this
| black would look like.
| jjeaff wrote:
| Sure it would. And capturing the contrast between the
| regular wall and the black would give you much better
| results that turning your monitor off too.
|
| There are lots of cool photos out there of super black
| material.
| lapetitejort wrote:
| I turned my monitor off and saw the most disgusting
| creature staring back at me. No idea why you'd want to
| paint that around your house.
| zmix wrote:
| Yes, photos, please :-)!
| sinalc0 wrote:
| Second this
| MikeDelta wrote:
| Man, wish the Rolling Stones had this back in the day when they
| wanted to paint that door.
| crb3 wrote:
| They could have used matte black tempera (Sanford's IIRC). Back
| in the day, I played around with (analog) photocopier rendition
| of pen-and-ink drawings and found that large black inked areas
| developed faded centers. Coating the ink there with said
| tempera fixed the dropouts.
| thanatos519 wrote:
| I have used culturehustle's matte paint on most of the stuff in
| front of me - monitor bezels, speakers, desk - and it makes sure
| that the lit things appear to be floating in space at night.
| dang wrote:
| Some past related threads, including about this blackest black
| and the other blackest blacks:
|
| _Guy Creates Darkest Room with the Blackest Black Paint_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25758913 - Jan 2021 (1
| comment)
|
| _Another Artist Made His Own Superblack-and Now It's Even
| Blacker_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25402799 - Dec
| 2020 (2 comments)
|
| _MIT creates blackest black that is darker than Vantablack_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21118636 - Sept 2019 (17
| comments)
|
| _Black Blacker Than Vantablack_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21093784 - Sept 2019 (94
| comments)
|
| _New carbon nanotube-metal hierarchical material is 10x darker
| than Vantablack_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20973667
| - Sept 2019 (68 comments)
|
| _BMW unveils "blackest black" car sprayed with Vantablack_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20820000 - Aug 2019 (28
| comments)
|
| _Vantablack, one of the darkest substances known_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19106541 - Feb 2019 (4
| comments)
|
| _BLACK 3.0 BETA blackest black acrylic paint_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19044406 - Jan 2019 (2
| comments)
|
| _One Artist Has a Monopoly on the World's Blackest Black
| Pigment_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16873089 - April
| 2018 (1 comment)
|
| _The World's "Blackest Black" Makes Its Debut-On a Building_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16342651 - Feb 2018 (1
| comment)
|
| _Anish Kapoor is given exclusive rights to Vantablack, the
| purest black paint_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11209692 - March 2016 (4
| comments)
|
| _New Super-Black, Light-Absorbing Material Looks Like a Hole in
| Reality_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8058840 - July
| 2014 (7 comments)
|
| _Scientists have developed a material so dark that it can 't be
| seen_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8030459 - July 2014
| (42 comments)
|
| _Scientists develop material so dark you can 't see it_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8027446 - July 2014 (7
| comments)
| inlikealamb wrote:
| There's a lot of backstory to this... it's a dig against
| Vantablack, which Anish Kapoor (famous sculptor) managed to buy
| exclusive rights for using in art:
|
| https://www.wired.com/story/vantablack-anish-kapoor-stuart-s...
| fennecfoxen wrote:
| For those who haven't heard of him before, Kapoor did the Bean
| in Chicago.
| IncRnd wrote:
| Apparently he has done tons of work. His website is a
| straight list of image links left to right and up & down.
|
| https://anishkapoor.com/
| tmmx wrote:
| Anish Kapoor is not happy that people are calling it the
| bean. Cloudgate is the official name.
| bbarnett wrote:
| The Amish grow lots of beans, and I doubt they like
| nanotubes.
| _jal wrote:
| ...Another good reason to call it the bean.
| blamazon wrote:
| Ah, so you mean the official name is "the bean"?
| ThePadawan wrote:
| Just bear with me here.
|
| Wouldn't it be funny if people only knew him as the guy
| famously slammed for getting a monopoly on Vantablack? If at
| all.
| kwhitefoot wrote:
| Apart from a wonky bit of space frame crap the black colour
| foolishness is in fact all I know about him.
| SamBam wrote:
| I misread this (ambiguous) line at first
|
| > In 2017, Semple also released a cherry-scented version of the
| Vantablack pigment exclusively licensed to Kapoor.
|
| and thought that Semple had mixed cherry-scent with Vantablack
| and licensed it to Kapoor exclusively. It would have been an
| interesting move, particularly from a legal perspective,
| although I would have expected a different scent than cherry...
| jchw wrote:
| Indeed, and it looks like 3.0 still maintains this feud:
|
| > *Note: By adding this product to your cart you confirm that
| you are not Anish Kapoor, you are in no way affiliated to Anish
| Kapoor, you are not purchasing this item on behalf of Anish
| Kapoor or an associate of Anish Kapoor. To the best of your
| knowledge, information and belief this material will not make
| it's way into the hands of Anish Kapoor.
| katabatic wrote:
| Dragging Anish Kapoor never, ever gets old.
| adrusi wrote:
| That's, I think, a deliberate facet of Kapoor's art.
| dan_pixelflow wrote:
| There's a Tom Scott video about another one of Stuart's products,
| and an explanation for the Anish Kapoor message:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NzVmtbPOrM
| domenici2000 wrote:
| Thanks, came back for this hehe
| Tsiklon wrote:
| The Stuart Semple vs. Anish Kapoor "beef" is one of my
| favorites to read about, utterly harmless and unbelievably
| petty, it entertains me to no end.
| tenaciousDaniel wrote:
| I really want a mechanical keyboard coated with this.
| ksec wrote:
| Are there any piratical purpose in doing it?
| tenaciousDaniel wrote:
| Not at all, would just look cool (in theory). Unfortunately
| the replies prove that it's impossible, at least right now.
| stevenpetryk wrote:
| You can paint your black flag even blacker. Think of the
| plundering!
| Pet_Ant wrote:
| I mean if you wanted black box for photographing things and
| wanted to minimise bounce lighting. This paint guarantees
| that only direct light would illuminate the subject.
| robbedpeter wrote:
| It'll make yer skull 'n crossbones really pop, matey!
| sneak wrote:
| As others have pointed out, this will only work until you touch
| it. I use the Das Keyboard ultimate, which is matte black and,
| while partially reflective (and moreso on the keycaps where
| finger oil accumulates) it's still pretty great-looking.
| EliasWatson wrote:
| TaeKeyboards has a video where he does that:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKpsohmQMwE
|
| It looks pretty good, but you can't put a clearcoat on it, so
| it's not durable enough to actually use as a keyboard. Still a
| fun item to have on your shelf though.
| 1-more wrote:
| Wait can you not clearcoat it because it ruins the effect? Or
| is it somehow too weak to accept a clear coat?
| h327 wrote:
| The clear coat would ruin the effect by reflecting light,
| making the paint look less black
| robbedpeter wrote:
| A low gloss tough coating will add to the reflectivity, but a
| high gloss highly transparent coating might look really cool
| still.
| Eric_WVGG wrote:
| Unfortunately surfaces coated with this (or Vantablack) cannot
| be touched, the coatings that creates the effect are too
| delicate.
|
| It's basically good for art projects and scientific
| applications.
| [deleted]
| eropple wrote:
| Semple also sells an acrylic black paint which, while not
| _this_ black, is pretty dang black and can be touched.
| atVelocet wrote:
| And what's the name of it and where can I get it?
| yifanl wrote:
| https://culturehustle.com/collections/black/products/rave
| n-c...
|
| It mentions it's fabric-safe, so presumably durable
| enough for keyboards.
| chromaton wrote:
| From the website:
|
| >Q. Can I paint my car / bike etc...
|
| >A. NO - 3.0 is quite fragile and will just scratch off, it
| won't weather well.
| [deleted]
| aquir wrote:
| I wanted to paint my laptop with it but seeing this answer on
| their website made me sad :-(
| prox wrote:
| Just paint it every week ;)
| amelius wrote:
| Painting your car white is the least you can do for the
| planet.
|
| https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-
| change/news/painting-r...
| Sebastian_09 wrote:
| seems it absorbs a bit less light than vantablack but the
| comeback at Kapoor is quite fun
| https://www.dezeen.com/2019/02/05/black-3-0-stuart-semple-an...
| dang wrote:
| This is in the feature list of the OP too: *
| Not available to Kapoor
| kingofpandora wrote:
| > "That," he said, "that... is really bad for the eyes."
|
| > It was a ship of classic, simple design, like a flattened
| salmon, twenty yards long, very clean, very sleek. There was just
| one remarkable thing about it.
|
| > "It's so... black!" said Ford Prefect. "You can hardly make out
| its shape... light just seems to fall into it!"
|
| > The blackness of it was so extreme that it was almost
| impossible to tell how close you were standing to it.
|
| > "Your eyes just slide off it..." said Ford in wonder
| 8ig8 wrote:
| Nigel Tufnel: "It's like, how much more black could this be?
| And the answer is none -- none more black."
|
| This Is Spinal Tap
| (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds7FRivVMgA)
| perl4ever wrote:
| https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fuligin
|
| "the hue fuligin, which is darker than black, admirably erases
| all folds, bunchings and gatherings so far as the eye is
| concerned, showing only a featureless dark.
| drewzero1 wrote:
| > "Looks like a fish, moves like a fish, steers like a cow."
| aaroninsf wrote:
| This line always perplexed me as a kid.
|
| I got (still get) stuck on the overlap between moving, and
| steering. Moving like a fish seems to include sinuous paths,
| schooling with sudden acceleration and darts to the side,
| etc... nimbleness and speed.
|
| I understood it was a proxy for "accelerates like/is as fast
| as" but found that unsatisfying.
|
| Also, cow works to evoke large, stubborn perhaps,
| unresponsive... but was an odd choice in as much as few try
| to steer cows. Shepherd, maybe. A water buffalo or ox or even
| mule felt like a missed opportunity, since they are
| prototypically steered and there is a sense of their
| owners/drivers laboring against their desire to not labor...
|
| Total Nicolson Baker rabbit hole, just a specific reading
| experience that has always stood out from that series. I have
| uttered that line countless times over the years in various
| contexts, including while dancing late at night on the playa.
| JackFr wrote:
| Yikes. It means young (neutered) male cattle prefer a cow.
| lurquer wrote:
| Indeed.
|
| Face-palm.
|
| Reminds me of another 'joke' I never got which, for all I
| know, might have been obvious to everyone else:
|
| "Why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the other
| side."
|
| I never knew that "the other side" was referring to
| death... like, at a seance when you contact the "other
| side".
|
| Apparently the joke was a big hit in the days of the
| Spiritist movement (back with Houdini, Doyle, and all the
| others promoting or debunking seances.)
|
| I thought it was some intentionally stupid joke about
| crossing a road. Doh.
| JackFr wrote:
| TIL...
| gweinberg wrote:
| I think the "intentionally stupid" interpretation is
| correct. I think the original answer was "to get from the
| left to the right", which later got shortened.
| Hallucinaut wrote:
| I had two jokes in a jokebook at my grandparents place
| that stumped me as a kid.
|
| Waiter: How did you find your steak sir? Man: I looked
| under a mushroom and there it was
|
| I could only put it down to a terrible, Christmas cracker
| level pun on "much room".
|
| The second was something like "What has three feet but no
| legs? A yard stick" with a picture of a ruler with three
| feet on it. I found that utterly perplexing... the joys
| of living in a metric country with predominantly imported
| imperial system based media!
|
| Both took me probably over a decade to understand.
| Crespyl wrote:
| Hah, somehow I never once made that connection. "Flies
| like a banana" has been an old favorite, but out of
| context I just never picked up on this version despite
| many re-reads.
| cardiffspaceman wrote:
| Time flies like an arrow / Fruit flies like a banana.
| donio wrote:
| A recent kickstarter, no idea how they compare:
| https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/311352786/horizon-black
| parsecs wrote:
| I own a bottle of this stuff, and it's not really as amazingly
| black as it looks on camera. Sure, it's pretty damn black. But
| it's easy to see the imperfections and stuff up close. There was
| a video that compared it to black felt, which is pretty similar.
|
| And no, this is not Vantablack. It's just some special acrylic
| that can hold a lot of black pigment, and a lot of black pigment.
| Vantablack needs to be "grown" with high temperatures so its
| usually seen on aluminum foil and such.
|
| Overall, this is pretty cool. I could definitely believe that
| it's the blackest acrylic paint in the world. However it doesn't
| create a "black hole" or anything.
| [deleted]
| sangnoir wrote:
| > And no, this is not Vantablack.
|
| you may have missed the bit where they mention that this paint
| is available to everyone _who is not Kapoor_ - Anish Kapoor
| signed a contract that grants him exclusive rights to use
| Vantablack for art projects.
| stavros wrote:
| I think OP means "this is nowhere close to Vantablack", not
| "do not think this is actually Vantablack".
| ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
| _> Note: By adding this product to your cart you confirm that you
| are not Anish Kapoor, you are in no way affiliated to Anish
| Kapoor, you are not purchasing this item on behalf of Anish
| Kapoor or an associate of Anish Kapoor. To the best of your
| knowledge, information and belief this material will not make it
| 's way into the hands of Anish Kapoor._
|
| I love drama...
| wodenokoto wrote:
| For people not in on the drama: Anish Kapoor somehow has
| exclusive rights to Vanta Black, the blackest black paint, so
| in return, the pinkest pink and now the blackest acrylic paint
| are banning Anish Kapoor, who for some reason was petty enough
| to break the ban. I mean, if you want other people to respect
| your exclusive rights to vanta black, you should at least
| respect other color exclusivity clauses.
|
| https://www.dezeen.com/2016/12/30/anish-kapoor-uses-stuart-s...
| garrickvanburen wrote:
| A very fun, very NSFW podcast that goes deep into the drama
|
| http://citationpod.com/episode/the-blackest-black/
| marcodiego wrote:
| So dark it makes difficult to note relief. Maybe it is a good
| choice to paint telescope tubes' interior.
| samatman wrote:
| That's the whole idea.
|
| It wouldn't be much of an absorber of all visible radiation
| which hits it, if it bounced enough back to make out textural
| details.
| sjackso wrote:
| If you're interested, here's a thread of telescope nerds
| discussing that exact usage:
| https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/692954-how-black-is-the-b...
| notJim wrote:
| Well... the price was reasonable, something around $26 for
| 150 ml bottle including shipping to Pennsylvania (USA), and
| I am not Anish Kapoor so I decided to give the paint a try.
|
| Since many of us are amused by the Anish Kapoor situation, I
| wanted to highlight this wry comment from your link.
| davidkunz wrote:
| Can't wait to mix it with the whitest white to get the grayest
| gray.
| runawaybottle wrote:
| Here is the BMW Vantablack:
|
| https://www.bmwusa.com/concept-vehicles/vantablack-x6.html
|
| I believe it is illegal since no one can see it at night.
|
| Video: https://youtube.com/shorts/17VlV62q5r0?feature=share
| fabbari wrote:
| I may be stupid and missing the point - but this part from the
| BMW page made me laugh: "This nanostructure paint finish, among
| the blackest ever made by man, tricks the viewer's perception
| of the car as a three-dimensional shape." -- oh, the magic. You
| paint a 3D object with this paint and it looks 3D.
|
| I am guessing they meant 'two-dimensional'.
| [deleted]
| frosted-flakes wrote:
| I don't see anything wrong with the sentence. The black paint
| tricks the viewer's normal perception of the car as a three-
| dimensional shape, to make it seem like it's two-dimensional.
| Are you understanding it differently?
| mdorazio wrote:
| Yes. The idea is that without being able to differentiate
| features, a 3d object painted with it looks basically like
| a silhouette, so your brain interprets it as a 2d object.
| cirrus3 wrote:
| The sentence is fine and means what you think it should. You
| are reading it wrong.
| [deleted]
| csw-001 wrote:
| Hey, Finally a way to make the lines of a BMW attractive... ;-)
| HankOcean wrote:
| No matte black on the ride cuz it's stale
| throwawayboise wrote:
| Never heard of a car color being illegal. As long as it has the
| mandated lighting and reflectors, how could it not be visible
| at night?
| folago wrote:
| Fulgin color straight from "the book of the new Sun" saga.
| emptysongglass wrote:
| If only. The day real fuligin is available for purchase is the
| day I discard all other clothing and prance around in an
| oversized fuligin cape twenty four hours a day for the rest of
| my life.
| KozmoNau7 wrote:
| It would be horrendously hot, so maybe only use it as a
| winter coat.
| fleddr wrote:
| Nice, a niche topic I am in on. I've experimented with a few of
| these materials for photography.
|
| One thing that is good to know is that the extreme darkness you
| typically see in demonstration videos where any sense of depth
| disappears, is not true to life.
|
| Even indoors, with plain daylight shining inwards, and judging
| the object with your own eyes, will not give the effect. You'll
| perceive it as gray and extremely matte.
|
| The difference can be explained by Youtubers picking favorable
| light conditions, but also because the camera capturing said
| video tends to have a smaller dynamic range compared to your own
| eyes. I believe it has been experimentally established that human
| beings can detect even a single photon:
|
| https://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-human-e...
|
| So don't expect full magic. Fun can still be had though, like
| half-magic. I have a background painted with a very dark paint
| (more on the brand in a minute) with inside of it a figure
| painted with the same paint. With artificial lighting in my
| office, you can't see the figure at all. When picking up the
| figure, even directly looking at it won't give away any sense of
| depth.
|
| Anyway, the paint I use is Musou Black, which is claimed to be
| darker than Black 2.0 or 3.0:
|
| https://www.ko-pro.black/product/musou-black-paint/
|
| Their darkness is compared by their maximum light absorption
| rate, supposedly Musou has the highest: 99.4%. Do know that
| actual absorption depends on your method of painting. Ideally,
| you thinly spray paint several individual layers for maximum
| effect.
|
| This same company (I promise I don't work for them) has a
| material I find far more intriguing. It's called Fineshut Pro.
|
| Whereas the paints you can see as organic, meaning the way you
| apply it matters, the sheet is "pre-engineered". In the real
| world, the difference is huge. In particular the sheet also has
| the full darkness effect in unfavorable light conditions (direct
| daylight). However, only when light hits at a particular angle.
| sprior wrote:
| When I got my Black 3.0 bottles via the Kickstarter I turned two
| wooden eggs and painted one with their gold and one with Black
| 3.0. Here's a picture of the two taken in a very well lit
| workshop:
| https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10159690521351509&set=a...
|
| It looks like the black egg was Photoshopped out of the picture,
| but I promise it looked the same in person and that table used as
| a background is painted 20% gray.
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