[HN Gopher] The Print Shop Club: Create Apple II Print Shop Prin...
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       The Print Shop Club: Create Apple II Print Shop Printouts in the
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       Author : empressplay
       Score  : 128 points
       Date   : 2021-07-16 13:28 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
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       | armagon wrote:
       | Oh, this brings back memories.
       | 
       | The one advantage tractor-feed paper still has is in printing
       | banners!
        
         | tyingq wrote:
         | I still see tractor feed paper in a few businesses, usually
         | where they need paper with multiple carbon copies...since
         | tractor feed also usually means impact dot matrix.
         | 
         | I still see these in some older mom-and-pop auto parts stores,
         | for example.
        
         | reaperducer wrote:
         | One other advantage: High-speed printing.
         | 
         | In the early 90's I worked at a chemical company in a
         | department that sometimes printed labels for sample-size drums
         | of chemicals. We had an enormous tractor-feed laser printer
         | that printed on giant drum-sized stickers. I was told that
         | tractor feed was used because of the speed at which the labels
         | were printed. If you remember the 90's, mechanical handling of
         | individual sheets of paper wasn't very good. Piles of labels
         | was worse.
         | 
         | I have no idea what the tech stack was behind the scenes, but I
         | did each label run with a green screen Wang terminal.
         | 
         | (Fun fact: The administration offices were on one side of a
         | very large, steeply-sloped, man-made hill, and the lab was on
         | the other side. If bad things happened, the sales and
         | administration staff was safe.)
        
         | user3939382 wrote:
         | This type of paper and dot matrix printers are still in use in
         | some commercial and industrial settings, like accounting
         | departments or warehouses where they need printers going 24/7.
         | From what I gather this is the most reliable setup in those
         | scenarios.
        
       | tclancy wrote:
       | Man, every birthday party ever thanks to C64!
        
       | EvanAnderson wrote:
       | I credit my developing an eye for identifying typefaces to my use
       | of The Print Shop at my public library when I was in elementary
       | school. I don't know that I was aware of the idea of typefaces
       | before that.
       | 
       | My junior high had signs, printed in The Print Shop, announcing
       | administrative minutiae and offering "pep talk" slogans. I'd
       | scratch down the particular combination of typeface, border, and
       | clip art they used then print subtly different replacement signs
       | I'd hang over the originals. It went on for awhile before I got
       | caught sticking one up. (I was particularly pleased with
       | replacing "All lockers are school property and may be searched at
       | any time" with "All thoughts are school property and may be
       | controlled at any time".)
       | 
       | As an aside: The Print Shop Companion on Apple II has a hidden
       | "driver" game on the B-side. You press ESC then CTRL-SHIFT-6 to
       | get to the game. That was one of the first Easter eggs I'd ever
       | seen and I remember having a feeling of wonderment at the idea
       | that secrets could be hidden in software.
        
         | ukyrgf wrote:
         | I did the same! Although mine was in the days of Photoshop, I
         | just had to mimic it perfectly. It took me making one that said
         | "kill whitey!" before they started asking kids who was doing it
         | and I got ratted out. When I explained it was a quote from
         | Black Sheep the principal kinda laughed and said "yeah.. I
         | know... please stop?"
        
         | airstrike wrote:
         | I have a similar recollection but on a different app for
         | Windows 95(?) which I'll never recall the name...
        
           | slacktide wrote:
           | Excel 97 had a rudimentary flight simulator game as an easter
           | egg.
        
       | ofrzeta wrote:
       | Super cool. How is that PDF gateway implemented?
        
         | brassattax wrote:
         | Looks like their emulator MicroM8 has built in support for
         | emulating an Epson MX-80 printer and saving the output to PDF,
         | as well as a virtual modem.
         | https://paleotronic.com/software/microm8/help/peripherals/
         | 
         | That's excellent!
        
           | ofrzeta wrote:
           | Thanks. I guess you went the smarter route looking for a
           | solution :)
        
             | brassattax wrote:
             | I was curious myself... that's beyond what I would expect
             | in an emulator
        
         | ofrzeta wrote:
         | Answering my own question (partially): some Apple II emulators
         | seem to have that functionality built-in, for instance
         | VirtualII that has "Epson FX-80 and Imagewriter II emulation".
         | Now I wonder what emulator they are using with WASM. They are
         | essentially loading a file called "cyanide.wasm" but I could
         | not find an emulator with that name.
        
           | adambb wrote:
           | Looks like they mention it in the blog post
           | 
           | https://paleotronic.com/2021/07/13/introducing-the-print-
           | sho...
        
       | tibbydudeza wrote:
       | The program that destroyed dot matrix printer ribbons.
       | 
       | You could hear it a mile away in our first year computer lab as a
       | poor Epson FX-80 screamed it's "head" off.
       | 
       | We always had a stack of confiscated floppies of pirated
       | versions.
        
       | jdofaz wrote:
       | I loved that rainbow printing screen as a kid
        
         | Thoreandan wrote:
         | I know, right? _THINKING_ was the most curious thing for 5th
         | grade me. _THINKING_ _PRINTING_ _THINKING_ _PRINTING_
        
           | jdofaz wrote:
           | I forgot it used to pause and think :D
        
       | wiredfool wrote:
       | That looks soooo weird.
       | 
       | I've never seen it in color before.
        
         | mmcgaha wrote:
         | Yep I was expecting green on dark green.
        
       | DJBunnies wrote:
       | I can hear the dot matrix printer whirring away at my banner.
       | Serious nostalgia.
        
       | erickhill wrote:
       | Thank you so much for doing this. So many of my classrooms were
       | covered in printouts from this legendary program. It's amazing
       | how ubiquitous its printouts were especially in my elementary
       | school days.
       | 
       | That really gave me a massive blast from the past.
       | 
       | I really appreciate the attention to detail to even making the
       | CRT-looking text have some color distortion.
       | 
       | A+
        
       | throwmamatrain wrote:
       | This is the sound you would hear when you press print:
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5kG3E5Jolg
        
       | chadlavi wrote:
       | Wish you could use an iOS device's software keyboard for this!
        
       | savrajsingh wrote:
       | This was an outstanding piece of software. I'm stuck on the
       | printing page though -- maybe we crashed it.
        
         | empressplay wrote:
         | On some browsers if you click away it will suspend WebAssembly
         | execution, if you click back it should continue...
        
       | telesilla wrote:
       | I went back in time and heard this in my mind while I was waiting
       | for the print job to complete. Thanks, person who made this.
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEJYNtI2ul4
        
       | dekhn wrote:
       | Print Shop changed my life in several ways. First, it introduced
       | me to fonts at a time when the only fonts available were fixed-
       | width raster fonts. I have loved fonts since then, although
       | pretty much between 1989 to 2001 I stuck with fixed-width fonts
       | for performance and compatibility reasons (linux had terrible
       | font support at the time). I later found out about the font wars
       | (adobe/microsoft/apple) and how the end result was
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenType
       | 
       | Second, it made me learn bit math so I could render fonts
       | onscreen in high res. That played a huge role in me becoming a
       | better programming (scripter-> coder).
        
       | spoonjim wrote:
       | Just the word "Print Shop" is nostalgic to the point of physical
       | pain. I used to sneak into the school computer lab at lunch or
       | recess and print out huge numbers of banners which I then covered
       | my room with. Dot matrix 4 Lyfe.
        
         | munificent wrote:
         | _> nostalgic to the point of physical pain._
         | 
         | Perfect description of what I'm feeling right now. It's like
         | some long-dead part of my childhood briefly lurched into life
         | for a moment reopening the wounds of grief at the lost time.
        
       | uxp100 wrote:
       | Anyone have a recommendation for label making software for the
       | Apple ii? My ImageWriter is the only printer I own and I was
       | wanting to run a batch of home brew labels, just like name date
       | og/fg sort of thing.
        
         | EvanAnderson wrote:
         | If you're not looking for fancy typefaces I'd use Appleworks.
         | The database function has label capability if memory serves.
        
       | rticesterp wrote:
       | Very cool! I made just about all of my birthday cards in early
       | elementary school on the Mac Plus Print Shop. How long do you
       | plan on having the site up?
        
       | __david__ wrote:
       | It's weird to think there was a time when practically everyone
       | had dot matrix printers and custom banners adorned every
       | gathering...
        
       | OriPekelman wrote:
       | omg Koalapad. I totally forgot about that. And the very huge
       | banners. and running out of ink after printing just one.
        
       | acheron wrote:
       | I did so much with Print Shop in MS-DOS. The Apple II version
       | looks a bit different, though part of that could also be that I
       | always had Print Shop Companion as well; I can't remember what
       | was added with that.
        
       | TimTheTinker wrote:
       | This is _fantastic_. I 'll never forget that feeling of
       | excitement as my carefully crafted card started getting printed
       | on my grandpa's dot matrix printer...
        
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