[HN Gopher] GM warns some Bolt EV owners: Don't park them inside...
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GM warns some Bolt EV owners: Don't park them inside or charge them
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Author : cebert
Score : 35 points
Date : 2021-07-14 21:53 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| throwawayboise wrote:
| Same reason I wouldn't even think about a Powerwall (or anything
| like it, not picking on Tesla specifically) inside my house. If
| it could be in an outdoor enclosure a safe distance away, maybe.
| jordache wrote:
| terrible look for GM. Who is going to be the guinea pig for the
| next iteration of GM EV product?
|
| Has any notable numbers of Teslas caught fire while charging?
| javagram wrote:
| 2019: https://www.thedrive.com/news/28420/parked-teslas-keep-
| catch...
|
| That said, they haven't had to do a recall so maybe it isn't as
| bad (or maybe GM is just more aggressive about recalls)
| lupire wrote:
| Tesla addressed a fire risk with a software update for
| thermal management.
|
| Recall is only needed for hardware fixes or if there is no
| 100% deployed software update network for the cars.
| sliken wrote:
| Yes, pretty sure anyways, things do happen. The rate of Tesla
| fires is quite a bit less than gas powered cars though. Tesla
| has failsafes to prevent fires, but nothing is perfect.
|
| Doesn't seem that unusual, I wanted to replace the door between
| my house and garage, turns out there's a specific building code
| specification for that door, because apparently cars catch fire
| in garages.
| jeffbee wrote:
| Always seemed weird to me that building codes require fire-
| rated materials for attached garages, but there are not smoke
| alarms designed to be installed there.
| lupire wrote:
| People aren't supposed to sleep in garages, so it's not
| required.
|
| What wouldn't a normal smoke alarm work in a garage?
| casylum wrote:
| Excessive dust can trigger false alarms. They make heat
| detectors for spaces like garages and attics.
|
| https://www.homedepot.com/p/Kidde-Firex-Hardwired-Inter-
| Conn...
| literallyaduck wrote:
| Plug-ins are the new pinto.
| throwaway0a5e wrote:
| I know that a lot of people on HN have a lot of money tied up in
| products made by a couple companies that start with T and end
| with A and this being the internet many of them are chomping at
| the bit to put down the big three but before you make fools of
| yourselves running your mouths you might want to know that:
|
| a) Only two vehicles have had issues.
|
| b) It's unclear yet whether there's a design, manufacturing or
| procedural fault or if there was human error when performing a
| recall repair on these vehicles.
| Someone1234 wrote:
| I have to admit I under-estimated how problematic electric
| vehicle fires would be based on my knowledge with smaller
| lithium-ion devices like phones (that just pop and quickly fizzle
| out). But after reading about fire fighting them, you realize how
| big of a powder keg they are, in particular as they can
| spontaneously re-ignite themselves and water has limited
| effective (even if still the best we have).
|
| Article on the topic:
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| https://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/federal-regulators-wa...
|
| Here's a firefighting training video (start at 3 minutes if it
| does not):
|
| https://youtu.be/8n5Wf7TlGrU?t=181
|
| Although there are some innovative solutions coming on tap, like
| this special modified shipping container that you put a still-on-
| fire EV into and then drive it to another safer location:
|
| https://cfpa-e.eu/container-puts-out-inextinguishable-fires-...
| Something1234 wrote:
| Don't firefighters carry some kind of foam by default? After
| all there's a lot of grease fires(cars, kitchens) out there.
| wil421 wrote:
| Not usually in the US unless it's at an Airport. Although
| larger metros may have specialists. A couple friends of mine
| are firefighters in a very large city and they will help
| other counties or cities out with special situations. It all
| depends on what department has what specialists.
| javagram wrote:
| Foam is not as effective against electrical fires and the
| manufacturers recommend using water, not foam, on a lithium-
| ion electric car fire.
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