[HN Gopher] Goodbye to Hong Kong
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       Goodbye to Hong Kong
        
       Author : jseliger
       Score  : 30 points
       Date   : 2021-07-14 17:13 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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       | elldoubleyew wrote:
       | The idea that an "open and liberal" Hong Kong is a better Hong
       | Kong is purely subjective. While these ideals have generally
       | accompanied historical success in the west, they have not in
       | China. The CCP is not necessarily the Boogieman you want them to
       | be.
        
         | a_conservative wrote:
         | Subjective? What about the hundred flowers campaign?
         | 
         | > ... a period from 1956 to 1957 in the People's Republic of
         | China during which the Communist Party of China (CPC)
         | encouraged citizens to express openly their opinions of the
         | communist party.
         | 
         | followed by
         | 
         | > Citizens were rounded up in waves by the hundred of
         | thousands, publicly criticized, and condemned to prison camps
         | for re-education through labor, or even execution.
         | 
         | [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Flowers_Campaign
        
         | kerng wrote:
         | Such a strange view. For the people that grew up and live there
         | these changes are terrible - in every objective and measurable
         | way. It's so bad that those that can are trying to leave...
        
         | oddtuple wrote:
         | I don't know man, the CCP is kinda anti democratic...
        
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         | hoopleh wrote:
         | Historical success? The CCP is only 100 years old, China is
         | 5000. Just because you crush revolts doesn't make your ideals
         | successful.
         | 
         | Taiwan is the real China. The CCP is the boogieman and they're
         | destroying both their history and the world.
         | 
         | The CCP are evil people and they are committing genocide.
         | 
         | Be Confucius, not Mao.
        
           | ptx wrote:
           | Or perhaps, as a better fit for democratic ideals than
           | Confucius, maybe Mozi?
           | 
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozi
        
       | digianarchist wrote:
       | Only the New Territories were leased. Hong Kong Island and
       | Kowloon was seized, similarly to Gibraltar, by the British.
        
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