[HN Gopher] An Introduction to Medieval Geomancy (1999)
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       An Introduction to Medieval Geomancy (1999)
        
       Author : brudgers
       Score  : 19 points
       Date   : 2021-07-12 04:01 UTC (18 hours ago)
        
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       | qwerty456127 wrote:
       | > Note: this is a large file with several graphics, totalling
       | about 100KB.
       | 
       | This is so cute :-)
        
       | contingencies wrote:
       | I'm only vaguely familiar with the Chinese system. Regardless,
       | there is a substantial relationship between subsurface geology
       | and surface-expressed biology, topography, even in some cases
       | microclimate and audio. This was known to traditional societies
       | but is becoming lost in our time as we disconnect from the biomes
       | we are destroying and concrete-pouring. Anyone who has
       | substantial knowledge of native plants can and will verify the
       | same. I believe you could place many pre-modern humans in a
       | random location within their domain and, blindfolded, after a
       | minute they could likely tell you which plants and animals were
       | nearby, what they thrived on, the nearby soil types and
       | hydrology, the time of day, and the season.
        
         | duskwuff wrote:
         | > Regardless, there is a substantial relationship between
         | subsurface geology and surface-expressed biology...
         | 
         | Medieval geomancy, as discussed at the link, has nothing to do
         | with geology or plants -- it's a form of divination practiced
         | by making a series of dots in sand.
        
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       | jazzyjackson wrote:
       | The binary construction of the forms on the step-by-step page [1]
       | is very intriguing, almost reminds me of the kind of bit-shifting
       | you see in hashing algorithms. Sometimes I think there must be a
       | better way to represent random numbers like git hashes and public
       | keys, just because they're hard to remember or distinguish. Maybe
       | representing 60 bits of entropy as one of these hierarchies rich
       | with star-and-body associations would make it easier to remember
       | what a particular hash refers to.
       | 
       | http://www.princeton.edu/~ezb/geomancy/geostep.html
        
       | fsiefken wrote:
       | It's an ideal oracle as you don't need cards, sticks, coins or
       | dice. Just a stick and sand. On the other hand, i like the 2 dice
       | for casting the tibetan mo.
       | 
       | The geomancy figutes remind me of bagchen and domino
       | configurations, i wonder if there is a relationship
        
       | 99_00 wrote:
       | In present day Canada, tax payer and corporate dollars go to
       | geomancers in exchange for their services.
       | 
       | >In 1990, Tai emigrated to Canada and started working as a
       | professional geomancer...
       | 
       | >Among some of his commercial clients are banks, shopping malls,
       | office buildings and real estate consortiums groups, who seek his
       | advice in the areas of feng shui, to ensure that their business
       | environments are in harmony. Tai is the exclusive feng shui
       | master hired by HSBC in Canada, continental America and Europe.
       | He was the first Chinese geomancer hired by the Richmond City
       | Hall who employed his services in feng shiu analysis in
       | connection with their official building in B.C. Canada.
       | 
       | He was also paid for work done a 2010 olympic building.
       | 
       | http://www.shermantai.com/eng/author.php
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       | http://www.shermantai.com/ch/pdf/2006_02_14_Globe%20Mail%20(...
       | 
       | http://www.shermantai.com/eng/pdf/2006_04_Business%20Magazin...
        
         | egypturnash wrote:
         | This isn't about the westernized version of Feng Shui. It's
         | about a method of divination more akin to the I Ching:
         | 
         |  _In its original form, the geomantic figure was created by
         | making lines of random numbers of dots in the sand, hence the
         | name._ - the beginning of the  "Geomancy Step-By-Step" link
        
           | 99_00 wrote:
           | Why is this distinction important?
        
             | rablackburn wrote:
             | It's like conflating palm reading with astrology.
             | 
             | Irrespective of whether you believe the methods have any
             | value, we should at least make sure we're talking about the
             | same thing.
        
             | egypturnash wrote:
             | For the same reason Wikipedia has a ton of disambiguation
             | pages for dealing with multiple concepts that have the same
             | name: so you know which particular thing you're talking
             | about, instead of just going "oh I heard that word once"
             | and going off on a lengthy tear about what turns out to be
             | a totally different thing with the same name.
        
               | 99_00 wrote:
               | Wikipedia is a general purpose store of knowledge.
               | Comments exist in a context. In this case, discussion of
               | geomancy.
        
         | echlebek wrote:
         | Wow, and I thought having no 13th floor, or floors with 4 in
         | them, was nonsense.
        
       | DoreenMichele wrote:
       | I'm not sure what to make of this. This is new to me. I have some
       | familiarity with both tarot and astrology.
       | 
       | I tend to think of tarot and similar systems as being akin to a
       | Rorschach test: What you see in the cards is sort of a projection
       | from your subconscious. That doesn't mean it's useless or
       | meaningless. It just means it's not "magic." It's more like a
       | psychological trick to help you figure out what you think is
       | going on.
       | 
       | Astrology likely began as observations about a relationship
       | between events in the sky and events on earth at a time when
       | people were much more exposed to the elements and there was less
       | light pollution. You looked up to the sky and saw the phases of
       | the moon and pattern matched to tides, wind patterns and other
       | things on earth that modern science has affirmed really are
       | influenced by the sun and moon. You began keeping records and
       | talking about observed associations.
       | 
       | And then at some point it kind of jumped the shark and now people
       | imagine they can predict when you will metaphorically "win the
       | lottery" (often without even buying a ticket) instead of
       | something more akin to _predicting the weather._
       | 
       | At first glance, this appears to likely fall in the "Rorschach
       | test" camp.
        
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