[HN Gopher] The Medici as Artists Saw Them
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The Medici as Artists Saw Them
Author : drdee
Score : 52 points
Date : 2021-07-08 06:11 UTC (1 days ago)
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| pmoriarty wrote:
| Though it's not really about the Medici, anyone interested in
| this subject might also enjoy this great talk on _Training
| Artists from the Fifteenth Century_.[1]
|
| [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45fkkNdGKOw
| optimalsolver wrote:
| "Since God has given us the papacy, let us enjoy it."
|
| --Giovanni di Lorenzo de' Medici, aka Pope Leo X
| trhway wrote:
| and it was the last straw, so to speak, for Luther ...
|
| Interesting though that Medici started in 13xx as kind of
| disrupting upstart riding/representing a paradigm shift, ie. as
| city based tradesmen of growing wealth they were going against
| the established/entrenched order where aristocratic nobility
| ruled - and as any successful upstart they broke through the
| established order and "regulatory captured" all the power
| 150-200 years later, ie. Florence, papacy, French crown,...
| thus themselves becoming that entrenched order what the
| upstarts of 15xx were fighting against.
| mjklin wrote:
| "In the eyes of the Italians we Germans are merely low
| Teutonic swine. They exploit us like charlatans and suck the
| country to the marrow. Wake up Germany!"
|
| - quote by Frantz Funck-Brentano in his book _Luther_
| trhway wrote:
| yep, as far as i see all the religious insurrection is
| accompanied by some kind of nationalism. Hussites, Luther,
| Church of England, Zaporozhian Cossacks, ...
| hinkley wrote:
| I wonder which is the cart and which is the horse.
|
| Is maneuvering the reason you last for 200 years, or does
| anyone who can keep organized for 200 years find themselves
| maneuvering into the public sector whether they want to or
| not? At least at first, until you realize how much influence
| you have and then it goes to your head.
| trhway wrote:
| it was a rise of the independent cities where power in part
| came from some kind of [granted pretty limited]
| voting/representation instead of being just an aristocratic
| hereditary thing. The [especially limited]
| voting/representation naturally allows for high wealth
| individuals to maneuver into that power. The cities also
| allowed for that high wealth to be developed by non
| aristocratic tradesmen.
|
| >does anyone who can keep organized for 200 years find
| themselves maneuvering into the public sector whether they
| want to or not?
|
| i think the answer here is "if you don't do politics
| politics will do you"
| totalZero wrote:
| Man, painting must have been a million times cooler before
| photographs were developed.
| [deleted]
| neonate wrote:
| https://archive.is/AdIS5
| dmitriid wrote:
| What is it with every modern publication about art (or anything
| else, really)? "Here, we're talking about art extensively. Enjoy
| at most two accompanying illustrations/reproductions/photos."
| albertwang wrote:
| The Met has a video overview of the exhibition:
|
| https://youtube.com/watch?v=3CxZ2PrXQ1M
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| https://www.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/listings/2021/medici-p...
| BitwiseFool wrote:
| I really wish more high definition scans were made of old
| artwork. Especially renaissance paintings. I get that this will
| probably rob some museums of ticket revenue, but people like me
| can't afford to fly to Europe and visit these museums anyways.
| frostburg wrote:
| There are a few, but not as much as I'd like. However you can
| get giant Taschen monographs on a a decent selection of major
| artists for reasonable prices. They offer a better viewing
| experience in some ways than the average gallery or museum,
| especially for artists like Bruegel and Bosch.
| brudgers wrote:
| I posted a high resolution scan for this thread [1] and HN
| users complained and flagged it off the front page and down
| many many pages.
|
| [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27768468
| finiteseries wrote:
| They want you to visit The Met and see it in person.
| workergnome wrote:
| The Met has made every image they have that's not under
| copyright accessible under CC0.
|
| https://www.metmuseum.org/about-the-met/policies-and-
| documen...
|
| Museums in general have recognized that digital images don't
| replace the museum experience--and they'd rather provide good
| images of the art than have people rip off poor-quality ones.
| Not every institution, and artist copyright remains a huge
| barrier, particularly for contemporary art, but a LOT of
| artwork photography is out there in the public domain.
| wavefunction wrote:
| I think a great way to actually induce that behavior is to
| make digital copies freely available to encourage education
| about and appreciation of art and artists.
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