[HN Gopher] A community-maintained fork of Phabricator
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A community-maintained fork of Phabricator
Author : Redoubts
Score : 90 points
Date : 2021-07-08 15:59 UTC (7 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (we.phorge.it)
(TXT) w3m dump (we.phorge.it)
| dmitriid wrote:
| Serious question: in the past 10 or so years, have their been
| _any_ successful community-driven forks /projects?
|
| Many (most?) of the successful ones are driven by muti-
| billion/multi-million dollar companies. Some of the "leftovers"
| from previous eras are more often than not also driven by these
| companies (just look at contributions to Linux for example).
| merb wrote:
| servo
| neandrake wrote:
| In this situation the original project is no longer receiving
| regular updates. The fork is intended to continue maintaining
| the project, like updating to newer versions of PHP as older
| ones EOL, in addition to some new feature development.
| the-dude wrote:
| X.org?
| djur wrote:
| Jenkins and Hudson split about 10 years ago and the community-
| driven Jenkins won out over the corporate Hudson.
|
| I think it's fair to say that most large-scale community-
| managed projects are also going to have at least some kind of
| nonprofit attached, which will probably receive funding from
| companies which have an interest in keeping things going. For
| instance, Blender was a commercial and proprietary product that
| was made open source through a crowdfunded campaign run by a
| nonprofit created by Blender's original author. The Blender
| Foundation receives corporate funding and is a major
| contributor to development, but I think it's also fair to
| describe it as a successful community-driven project.
|
| Honestly, if something is high-profile enough to be identified
| as "successful" that probably means that someone's getting paid
| to work on it, and that money is probably coming from a
| commercial donor on some level or another. The one exception
| might be in video games: open source releases of games (such as
| The Ur-Quan Masters) are usually 100% volunteer-driven and are
| unlikely to receive corporate funding. Some of those have been
| very successful!
| dmitriid wrote:
| > Jenkins and Hudson split about 10 years ago and the
| community-driven Jenkins won out over the corporate Hudson.
|
| Five top contributors to Jenkins are from Cloudbees. $100
| million annual recurring revenue [1]
|
| Then there's one from Apache. One from RedHat. And even
| beyond top five contributions are meager to say the least.
|
| While opensource, development is driven by the company that
| builds a product on top of it.
|
| > Honestly, if something is high-profile enough to be
| identified as "successful" that probably means that someone's
| getting paid to work on it, and that money is probably coming
| from a commercial donor on some level or another.
|
| That was more-or-less a subtext to my question: to work on
| something big, you probably need full-time engineers. And
| those engineers at the very least need to eat something :)
|
| [1] https://thestack.technology/cloudbees-new-ceo/
| djur wrote:
| I think having commercial users of software fund ongoing
| development is a good thing and does not inherently mean
| that the project is no longer "community-driven".
| Commercial users are part of the community.
| denton-scratch wrote:
| "Phork"? [sorry]
| cwkoss wrote:
| https://phorge.it/ is down :-(
|
| I'd love to see this successful, but the base domain being down
| shakes my confidence...
| neandrake wrote:
| Please see my other comment. The community is still forming
| around this and working on setting up the proper fork. This
| project is not yet ready for announcement.
| neandrake wrote:
| As a note, we're planning to have a separate landing page on
| https://phorge.it, which is why it currently doesn't
| redirect.
| benatkin wrote:
| That's not a good metric. There's no rule that a website on a
| subdomain has to have a website on the parent domain.
| cwkoss wrote:
| You are technically right, but I think it's a pretty broadly
| practiced convention.
|
| It looks sloppy. Wanting the avoid the appearance of
| sloppiness should be sufficient motivation for the team to do
| the pretty minor amount of work to add a functioning
| redirect.
| kemayo wrote:
| In this case it's relevant, because the Phorge page links to
| the parent domain for the "Phorge is developed and maintained
| by The Phorge Team" line. Makes it a bit harder to trust said
| maintenance.
| the-dude wrote:
| Related : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27328404 ( 1 month
| ago, 139 comments )
|
| _Phacility is winding down, Phabricator no longer actively
| maintained_
| speed_spread wrote:
| It's time to erect Phalicity in its place
| tomc1985 wrote:
| hyuck hyuck hyuck
| wyldfire wrote:
| I hadn't heard about that. Is llvm planning to move reviews off
| of phabricator to github PRs?
| Redoubts wrote:
| Guess it depends how well this fork does.
| neandrake wrote:
| There is an effort working to establish Phorge as a community-
| maintained fork but it is not yet in a state for
| announcement/release. There's still work being done to establish
| the organization, the fork itself, and the community. Please bear
| in mind that this is in it's infancy.
| neandrake wrote:
| That being said, if anyone is interested in participating we
| have a Zulip up at
|
| https://temp-community-phab.zulipchat.com/
|
| As well as working on the effort on https://we.phorge.it
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