[HN Gopher] Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan
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Audacity fork dev quits due physical abuse by 4Chan
Author : syxaxis
Score : 47 points
Date : 2021-07-07 20:06 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| chrisseaton wrote:
| 'Physical abuse'? As in they've been actually striking him in
| person? Not verbal abuse?
| suby wrote:
| https://github.com/tenacityteam/tenacity/issues/99
|
| He claims to have been stabbed over this.
| sschueller wrote:
| According to the github post [1] there was an attempt on his
| life with a knife. All kinds of police involved now.
|
| The github post was flagged on HN for an unknown reason.
|
| [1] https://github.com/tenacityteam/tenacity/issues/99
| olyjohn wrote:
| Yes. He article mentions a butterfly knife and someone breaking
| into his property.
| [deleted]
| gentleman11 wrote:
| The GitHub issue where he explains why he stepped down and links
| to some charming 4chan threads:
| https://github.com/tenacityteam/tenacity/issues/99
|
| The 4chan board is full of comments like:
|
| > ...Anonymous 07/06/21(Tue)14:34:17 No.82421752 Cookie did you
| at least learn something from all this?
| stefan_ wrote:
| Why would anyone in particular 4chan care about this fork? It's
| like 20 commits (but apparently 20 weeks of drama) ahead of
| audacity and you already need a decoder ring to read this thread.
| moxniso wrote:
| tenacity isn't anything special when most of their commits are
| literally trivial README corrections, while sneedacity has
| received quite a number of code contributions in just a few
| days.
| sincerely wrote:
| - Dev holds contest to name new fork
|
| - 4chan meme reference wins contest (Sneedacity)
|
| - Dev declares results invalid
| nailer wrote:
| Why is the title modified? The person quit due to stalking not
| due to physical abuse.
| suby wrote:
| https://github.com/tenacityteam/tenacity/issues/99
|
| He claims to have been stabbed over this.
| olyjohn wrote:
| It says it right in the article too...
| alabamacadabra wrote:
| These are serious allegations. Allegations of such seriousness
| should require proof of equally serious merit before conclusions
| are drawn. Also, why does it seem this particular website or
| sites like Reddit become personified through action whereas
| Facebook, YT, Video Games etc don't? We don't say "a crazy person
| from counter strike" we say, "a crazy person playing X or Y
| game".
|
| The framing here to this story is strange to me.
| brnt wrote:
| Most people don't walk around recording evidence all day long.
| Which attackers know and make use of. So the absence of
| evidence is not evidence of absence, and a good system
| acknowledges that.
|
| In this particular case, there seems to have been evidence
| submitted to the police, so why you would say there is none is
| strange to me.
| alabamacadabra wrote:
| I have been on the internet for a very long time. Someone
| telling a story, no matter how emotional or dramatic is
| merely doing that: telling a story. Until there are real-
| world facts to back this story up: police report, pictures of
| any wound, etc. please take it with a grain of salt. There
| are many implicit biases on the internet and not all of them
| are obvious. I find it plausible that some people who browse
| 4chan attacked this person. I also find it plausible that
| it's entirely unrelated or fabricated. What do I have which
| can sway my opinion other than what legally is known as
| "Hearsay"?
| willcipriano wrote:
| Respectfully claiming to have given evidence to someone else,
| is not, in and of itself, evidence. It is merely a
| unsubstantiated claim.
|
| On a personal level, my gut is screaming that somethings
| fishy here. I'm reserving judgement until it all plays out in
| the courts.
| moralestapia wrote:
| If someone stabs you, and you have enough time to post about
| it on the internet, for sure you have time to take a few
| pictures of it. Me, personally, it would prob. be the first
| thing I would do after making myself safe, so I have evidence
| to show.
|
| But who knows, the only safe bet is not to believe stuff you
| read on the internet. -\\_(tsu)_/-
| [deleted]
| Rychard wrote:
| > cookiengineer claims 4chan members took things considerably
| further, including into physical harassment. He claimed: "It was
| attempted murder with an illegal butterfly knife. In the whole
| state of Germany, butterfly knifes are considered an illegal
| weapon. There were three witnesses in place that saw the
| incident. I was slit in the arm. On private property, that you
| have to physically break into in order to enter."
|
| This is scary to read. I cannot imagine being personally attacked
| for something as mundane as _forking_ a Github repository and
| making some commits.
|
| > "I am in contact with GitHub and the German BKA (federal
| police) as of now, therefore I will not disclose any more
| information publicly about what happened to anyone. Evidence has
| been gathered, submitted and will be acted upon. I will not
| legally let go of this."
|
| It's good to hear that cookiengineer is taking this through the
| appropriate legal channels. Nobody should have to live in fear.
| tinus_hn wrote:
| There is no way to justify stabbing someone, but to blame it on
| 'the hacker known as 4chan' is a bit ridiculous. 4Chan is a
| website, it does not physically abuse people.
|
| This began with idiots stalking this developer at his home
| address. There are laws against stalking people. Those laws need
| to be applied to these people so they see, hey, if I act like an
| idiot and go stalk someone because people on a website are egging
| me on, I go to jail, so I'd better not do that.
|
| And if they're to stupid to see that, they are in jail so they
| can't stalk people.
| normac2 wrote:
| Like some of the other people here, I'm not going to assume
| 100% that this is real until more of the facts come out. That
| said, I wouldn't put this past people from 4chan in their
| crusade of nihilism and destruction.
|
| Of course 4chan is not a monolith and there are plenty of
| peaceful people there (especially outside of /b/) but at some
| point it becomes obvious that this is a place where some very
| dark people meet up online to do dark stuff, sometimes out in
| the real world.
| alabamacadabra wrote:
| I truly think you're giving way too much credit to those
| people.
| arpstick wrote:
| I would be more inclined to believe that the /g/ board (the
| board implicated) did what was accused if what happened was
| that he did something far more grave like saying he has an
| iphone that he absolutely loves and loves using MacOS.
| normac2 wrote:
| That's a solid joke, but I wonder, does that actually
| significantly tweak your priors in favor of this being
| untrue? All of these different boards have their own
| bizarro codes of honor, so I wouldn't be surprised.
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