[HN Gopher] Garden Hermit
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       Garden Hermit
        
       Author : polm23
       Score  : 153 points
       Date   : 2021-07-05 04:28 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | Loughla wrote:
       | Look, I get that they existed to be gawked at by the upper
       | classes, and all, but. If anyone here is looking for a garden
       | druid/hermit, I would be more than willing to build the barrow,
       | as long as your estate is such that I never have to actually see
       | you. Feel free to gawk all you want as I collect various plants
       | from the area, just don't talk to me.
       | 
       | In all seriousness, that now sounds like a very 'wow look at how
       | out of touch rich people were' sort of thing. . . . That I
       | absolutely could see being a thing today.
        
       | motohagiography wrote:
       | This is amazing. I don't know whether I want one, or want to be
       | one. As an occupation for retired gentlemen, I think it would be
       | very appealing.
       | 
       | We sort of had one growing up, where the family had some land in
       | the country and my parents let a very eccentric man live in a
       | rennovated hippie school bus parked on it, and eventually he
       | built a network of little huts that were each beneath the area
       | threshold where a building permit would be required. He
       | maintained the land and the things we built on it, like tree
       | houses and ziplines over gullies (all farcically unsafe, but a
       | kind of heaven for a 10yr old self and siblings). He lived there
       | until they sold the land, and he moved in with his estranged
       | brother on another piece of land, just the two of them, not
       | speaking for years.
       | 
       | It was certainly less genteel than described in the article, but
       | this pattern hasn't disappeared. People I know with land have had
       | long term tenants on the property, sort of Kato Kaylin long term
       | guest characters, and as a retirement plan, it certainly beats
       | being warehoused in a retirement home.
       | 
       | If there were a deal where I could park an airstream on someone's
       | back 40 in exchange for some minimal property maintenance and
       | gardening into my late 70's and 80's, that sounds appealing.
       | There would probably even be competition, so I should start
       | thinking about how I might interview for such a role that I might
       | prevail over the other ornamental garden hermits.
        
         | AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote:
         | I wouldn't wait for retirement, I'd do it right now. Sadly I
         | didn't grow up in an economic class where I just happen to know
         | people with large amounts of land.
        
           | thatguy0900 wrote:
           | In America you don't need to be rich. Plenty of areas where
           | land is absolutely dirt cheap, as long as you don't mind not
           | really living next to anything and building your own
           | buildings.
        
             | AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote:
             | Sure, but as discussed the Garden Hermit gets a stipend or
             | other support from the land owner, possibly in exchange for
             | some kind of service. I could go buy nigh-useless land in
             | Wyoming for a pittance, but there's a reason it's a
             | pittance: it's probably unusable for agriculture, has
             | little or no access to potable water, has no reasonable
             | access to any infrastructure of any kind, etc. Basically, a
             | much much more difficult living situation than the one
             | being described by the article.
        
               | prawn wrote:
               | Is the rainfall there reasonable enough that you could
               | collect what you needed to filter/drink and wash without
               | being too wasteful? Are there large gas bottle deliveries
               | that could handle heating and cooking?
               | 
               | The hermitic relationship removes risk for the hermit
               | buying remote land, I guess. Saves you being caught with
               | somewhere that turns out to be a dud.
        
               | shuntress wrote:
               | You are talking about _homesteading_ [0] which is in some
               | ways similar to being a  "Garden Hermit".
               | 
               | I think these similarities are mostly superficial. The
               | key difference being up-front cost, sustenance
               | (food/water/shelter), and expenses.
               | 
               | A hermit (as described/imagined here) on someone else's
               | property would focus solely on gardening and basic
               | maintenance while enjoying the luxury of _not paying for_
               | landscapers, electricians, builders, plumbers, etc (and
               | enjoy the time spent _not doing_ all of those jobs
               | themself).
               | 
               | [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homesteading
        
       | rio_de_mierda wrote:
       | This seems like a good fix for CEOs who want people in the office
       | because they enjoy watching the ants scurry about.
        
       | twirlock wrote:
       | Somehow this feels related to shroomjak.
        
       | tperrigo wrote:
       | I'm reminded of The Sidley Park Hermit in Tom Stoppard's
       | beautiful "Arcadia".
        
       | codezero wrote:
       | The modern version of this must be Twitch.
        
       | riccardomc wrote:
       | I am from the region where Francis of Paola[1] lived. He's
       | mentioned as the first example of Garden Hermit in the article.
       | 
       | He's regarded as a very important religious figure in my region
       | and home town. I am quite sure a lot of more conservative people
       | would find the idea that he was an attraction for rich people
       | utterly offensive.
       | 
       | I find this very fascinating because as I grew apart from my
       | catholic upbringing and started questioning things, after
       | visiting Francis' alleged hermitage, I could never shake the
       | thought that it didn't seem very remote, secluded or
       | uncomfortable...
       | 
       | [1]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_of_Paola
        
       | kylecazar wrote:
       | I've wanted to write a screenplay about an ornamental hermit ever
       | since I came across this very article last year.
        
       | njacobs5074 wrote:
       | Is this the origin of garden gnomes? :)
        
       | cmpb wrote:
       | I imagine today's hermit would spend most of their time on their
       | phone/tablet.
        
         | sysadm1n wrote:
         | Or phablet
        
         | TheMerovingian wrote:
         | Or working from home.
        
           | Razengan wrote:
           | The home is the work.
        
       | Brendinooo wrote:
       | I'm always interested in how societies have depicted and
       | accommodated oddballs throughout history. Though I'm not sure if
       | this is an actual example or if it's just a contrivance of the
       | super wealthy.
        
       | pacaro wrote:
       | Hermit-in-residence doesn't sound so terribly different from
       | artist-in-residence or writer-in-residence.
       | 
       | It seems like more of a framing issue, "garden hermit" feels like
       | an eccentric ostentation, writer-in-residence feels like
       | philanthropic patronage
        
       | __coaxialcabal wrote:
       | This is the subject of a painting by artist Hernan Bas, "The
       | Ornamental Hermit".
       | 
       | https://thelonelyonedotnet.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/bas17...
       | 
       | The concept raises questions about power, class, voyeurism,
       | contemplation, and loneliness. Reminds me of this story (pardon
       | the source)...
       | 
       | """As for the contracts, they were usually very rigorous. The
       | most famous arrangement between one such hermit and an aristocrat
       | called Charles Hamilton illustrates the strict conditions under
       | which a hermit was supposed to act:
       | 
       | (A hermit must) continue on the Hermitage seven years, where he
       | shall be provided with a Bible, optical glasses, a mat for his
       | feet, a hassock for his pillow, an hourglass for timepiece, water
       | for his beverage, and food from the house. He must wear a camlet
       | robe, and never, under any circumstances, must he cut his hair,
       | beard, or nails, stray beyond the limits of Mr. Hamilton's
       | grounds, or exchange one word with the servant.
       | 
       | Unfortunately for Mr. Hamilton, the only known hermit that agreed
       | upon these conditions lasted merely three weeks at his
       | "workplace." One day, he vanished from the estate and was later
       | seen in a local pub, probably enjoying his freedom with a pint of
       | beer."""
       | 
       | https://www.thevintagenews.com/2017/09/13/the-life-of-a-19th...
        
       | paulpauper wrote:
       | Need to get me one of these
        
       | otikik wrote:
       | Finally, my answer to "If there were no computers, what would you
       | do for a living?"
        
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