[HN Gopher] UFOs: 'These objects show physics we don't understand'
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UFOs: 'These objects show physics we don't understand'
Author : aliasEli
Score : 30 points
Date : 2021-07-05 21:35 UTC (1 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (www.bbc.com)
| belter wrote:
| Posted this before here and still think its the most reasonable
| analysis:
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27723938
|
| "The Truth Behind the Super Hornet UFO Encounters"
|
| https://youtu.be/6z1lQ9Gp8Vk
| akmarinov wrote:
| I mean we just recently had Trump tweet out a satellite photo
| that amazed civilian experts that such fidelity is even
| possible, let alone already deployed so I think you're spot on.
| afro88 wrote:
| mimixco's comment in your post is spot on too:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27724776
| rustymonday wrote:
| I really do not understand the stigma behind UFOs. There is
| evidence of sightings for millennia all over the world, even
| before the invention of aircraft.
|
| [1]
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_reported_UFO_sightings
|
| [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_o
| ver...
| samstave wrote:
| When I was in Civil Air Patrol in the 1980s, in Truckee
| California (Lake Tahoe) - we were doing marching exercises at
| our HQ at Truckee Airport, ~7PM or so...
|
| We saw an object way off in the distance, on the other side of
| the mountain-line shoot straight up from behind the mountains.
|
| We stopped to watch it, and our Commander was a former mechanic
| on the SR-71, so we asked him what it was.... It was back-lit
| by a full moon at the time and perfectly clear skies.
|
| He mumbled "im not sure yet..."
|
| And within literally 2 seconds - the craft was hovering
| directly above us. It was the typical TR-3B type design,
| triangle with lights at the corners and one in the middle.
|
| However this thing was MASSIVE.
|
| It was larger than two of the Hangar rows at the airport, was
| hovering about 50 feet above us, 100% silent, and it slowly
| rotated a few degrees counter-clockwise as we watched it.
|
| Our Commander quickly ushered us inside "EVERYONE INSIDE NOW!"
|
| and we all scurried to get back to our office hangar...
|
| He would never speak of the incident. But to this day, I will
| never forget the image of that thing floating above us, and
| just how immense this thing was.
| s5300 wrote:
| Is this guy still alive?
| theknocker wrote:
| "Nuh huh." -- a bunch of fucking idiots, i.e. ~65% of the public
| paxys wrote:
| Are they even confirmed to be "objects"?
| [deleted]
| NullPrefix wrote:
| If not, can we call them "subjects"?
| aliasEli wrote:
| It is disappointing to see the coverage of this subject by the
| BBC.
| systematical wrote:
| Why?
| gruez wrote:
| From the headline alone: the "physics we don't understand"
| part only really makes sense if you assume the things you see
| on camera correspond to physical objects moving in space, and
| not some optical effect. If you thought a lens flare was a
| physical object you'd think it was "physics we don't
| understand", but the effect itself is perfectly explainable
| using physics we understand.
| rustymonday wrote:
| The Pentagon released a preliminary report [1] two weeks
| ago stating that UAPs (their term for UFOs) are physical
| objects and demonstrate advanced capabilities that the US
| Navy cannot explain.
|
| [1] https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/reports-
| publications/...
| DudeInBasement wrote:
| Cannot explain, means even if you know how, you cannot
| explain it.
| oblib wrote:
| The headline is a quote from the "former fighter pilot Alex
| Dietrich". The BBC wrapped it quotation marks.
| ALittleLight wrote:
| The DNI's UFO report clarifies that these objects were
| observed with multiple sensors and spotted by eyewitness.
| If you see something with radar, on the camera, you pick it
| up with the electro-optical system, and you and a few other
| folks see it with your eyes, then it is probably not a
| lens-flare.
|
| The DNI concluded that the UFO's are likely physical
| things.
|
| https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/Prelim
| a...
| sandworm101 wrote:
| I don't see it saying that. Some objects were seen on
| camera. Others were on radar. I see no report of an
| object being on both radar and visual (or other spectra)
| _simultaneously_. And they certainly have not released
| any actual raw data in that regard. Not any raw data full
| stop (ie no camera original images).
|
| A multi-sensor confirmation would show identical
| simultaneous movements across different sensors and
| platforms. Everything short of that is probably
| explainable due to the specific limitations of individual
| sensors.
| ALittleLight wrote:
| The second bullet point of the executive summary on page
| 3 of the PDF.
|
| "Most of the UAP reported probably do represent physical
| objects given that a majority of UAP were registered
| across multiple sensors, to include radar, infrared,
| electro-optical, weapon seekers, and visual observation"
|
| Page 4 of the PDF, first bullet point:
|
| "144 reports originated from USG sources. Of these, 80
| reports involved observation with multiple sensors."
| sandworm101 wrote:
| Ya. Not simultaneously detected. These are days where one
| sensor sees something, then another sensor sees another
| thing, then a pilot goes up looking and sees something
| else. That is not confirmation. Multiple sensors seeing
| things in sequence, not all seeing the same thing at the
| same time.
| 1over137 wrote:
| The BBC is not what it once was. :(
| samstave wrote:
| I'm convinced it is Black-Budget/OPs + Breakaway Civilization.
|
| Thats my favorite theory on these...
| delsarto wrote:
| I've been rewatching the X-Files with my kid on Disney+ and, wow,
| the restoration is amazing. It looks wonderful in 4K! It's
| brought new life for me as I originally watched it on an analogue
| broadcast or VHS recording of!
|
| Weirdly there's some stock footage scenes that aren't HD. This
| led me to finding
| https://www.reddit.com/r/XFiles/comments/3w3lxl/the_blurays_...
| is a great thread with lots of info on how the restoration was
| done.
|
| I seem to remember the later parts of the series going a little
| off the rails. But so far it's great family watching for the
| right age.
|
| I think you'll find better UFOs and conspiracy theories
| rewatching this than grainy fighter jet videos.
| narrator wrote:
| We're the apes deep somewhere in the jungle pointing at the Jeep
| the naturalists have driven up in.
|
| ape #1: You see that thing, holy crap what is it?
|
| ape #2: Oh yeah, that's just a bunch of rocks.
|
| ape #1: But, it moved!!!
|
| ape #2: Must be some animal from another part of the forest.
|
| ape #1: I've seen it move faster than any other animal in the
| forest!
|
| ape #2: You've been eating rotten bananas!!
|
| ape #1: But the big chief apes said they saw them too!
|
| ape #2: <This thread, but with gorillas>
| clouddrover wrote:
| Laser induced plasma effects sound like the most plausible
| explanation:
|
| https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2020/05/11/us-nav...
|
| https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2019/07/19/...
| oblib wrote:
| Well that's sure interesting!
|
| I'd not heard of these before but that sure does sound like it
| could be what those military videos are showing and I have to
| agree that it's likely "the most plausible explanation" I've
| heard yet.
| k33n wrote:
| The authorities would never lie to us about UFOs
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