[HN Gopher] The Chelsea Hotel Becomes a New York Battleground
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       The Chelsea Hotel Becomes a New York Battleground
        
       Author : lermontov
       Score  : 34 points
       Date   : 2021-07-05 02:56 UTC (20 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.nytimes.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.nytimes.com)
        
       | jb1991 wrote:
       | https://web.archive.org/web/20210705030230/https://www.nytim...
        
       | neonate wrote:
       | https://archive.md/DyqsA
        
       | gbronner wrote:
       | Two words: rent control. The long term tenants have leases that
       | will be very valuable if the hotel recovers. Owners can't kick
       | them out, but have no real desire to appease them, as they pay
       | almost nothing.
        
       | neuro wrote:
       | It's entertaining to watch these ritzy tenants play jane
       | bluecolors with their frequent and public complimentary lap
       | dances from the new york times.
        
         | kmos17 wrote:
         | ritzy tenants lol, you've obviously never been inside the
         | Chelsea or met its actual tenants.
        
           | neuro wrote:
           | I have insider knowledge of the hotel and its tenants. The
           | Chelsea tenants are firmly wealthier beyond the American
           | middle class.
        
             | aaronchall wrote:
             | That's not hard to believe.
        
             | jjulius wrote:
             | >I have insider knowledge of the hotel and its tenants.
             | 
             | Perhaps you would care to elaborate, then, rather than
             | simply being snarky?
        
       | petsormeat wrote:
       | Patti Smith's memoir "Just Kids" has terrific detail about daily
       | life in the Chelsea Hotel in the 1960s-70s.
        
       | sweetcheeks69 wrote:
       | I'm honored to have been exposed to some of the hotel's history
       | and its famous tenants through a relative who was part of the
       | scene in the 90s. Truly an iconic place!
        
       | spunker540 wrote:
       | This is largely irrelevant, but Leonard Cohen's song "Chelsea
       | Hotel #2" is the primary reason I find the hotel special. Every
       | time I walk past the song pops in my head. I'd be excited to see
       | the hotel returned to some glory, bohemian or not. It's been
       | under scaffolding for most of a decade it seems.
        
         | saalweachter wrote:
         | One of the things I think is special about NYC is the degree to
         | which its physical places have become a part of the wider
         | American culture.
         | 
         | From Central Park to the 59th Street Bridge to the Empire State
         | Building to Macy's, I probably knew more places in New York
         | when I first moved there than I could name in my own home-town.
         | Part of that is the relative sizes, but New York has a cultural
         | footprint beyond other large cities like Chicago or LA.
        
           | mcspiff wrote:
           | Being on the top of the Empire State Building with my uncle
           | who absolutely loves NYC and having him just point out so
           | much famous stuff is a great memory. Just history as far as
           | the eye can see.
        
           | jjeaff wrote:
           | Which is saying a lot considering how much larger the film
           | industry is in Los Angeles. A huge percentage of films are
           | done in southern California and even written into the script
           | as taking place there. And yet the iconography and history of
           | New York city is just so rich that it still pervades a lot of
           | pop culture.
        
       | unklefolk wrote:
       | I'm confused. The article talks about "tenants". Does this mean
       | the Chelsea Hotel is not actually a hotel, as it has long term
       | tenants?
        
         | jw1224 wrote:
         | The Chelsea Hotel is usually best known for having housed many
         | famous figures over the years:
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_Chelsea#Notable_resident...
        
         | david_allison wrote:
         | The Chelsea used to be an artist's cooperative, it was a mix of
         | long-term and short-term residents, and was infamous for being
         | lax with rent payments, with many living there rent-free.
         | 
         | This medium article gives a good perspective of its past.
         | 
         | https://medium.com/@bagelboy/make-america-bohemian-again-de8...
        
         | raldi wrote:
         | The word comes from the French _hotel,_ which just means hall.
         | Historically, many  "hotels" were places that housed medium-to-
         | long-term guests, either exclusively or alongside short-term
         | visitors. Like the Eloise books, which took place at the Plaza
         | Hotel, or Paris's Hotel des Invalides, where wounded soldiers
         | recovered.
        
           | bsanr2 wrote:
           | IIRC hotel and hospital have the same roots, which makes the
           | term "hospitality" much less confusing.
        
         | ceejayoz wrote:
         | The article covers this pretty clearly, describing decades-long
         | tenants and saying:
         | 
         | > Plans are underway to make the Chelsea Hotel an actual hotel
         | again.
        
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