[HN Gopher] Orange County Prosecutors Operate "Vast, Secretive" ...
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Orange County Prosecutors Operate "Vast, Secretive" Genetic
Surveillance Program
Author : newman8r
Score : 42 points
Date : 2021-07-03 16:56 UTC (6 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (theintercept.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (theintercept.com)
| procombo wrote:
| Don't U.S. states all already do this immediately after birth?
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| https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18945-do-you-care-wha...
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| https://www.healthnutnews.com/cbs-dna-from-newborn-blood-sam...
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| https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23136040/
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| In my state even when you home-birth you are required to submit
| samples. You have a right to "request" they destroy the samples
| after 90 days, but in the fine print it says they will process
| your request but they won't guarantee that all
| samples/digitizations will actually get destroyed.
| oceanghost wrote:
| OC law enforcement is famously corrupt. Lived there for years. I
| can't tell how many times I got pulled over for BS reasons for a
| fishing expedition. I was once given a ticket for "incorrect
| instrumentation" for a completely unmodified (and unremarkable)
| 350Z.
| coolspot wrote:
| Some people think driving a 350Z is already a probable cause.
| oceanghost wrote:
| My point exactly.
| anm89 wrote:
| One thing that always makes me curious about this kind of thing
| is how people that enact these programs justify them to
| themselves and the people around themselves. This is evil villain
| level stuff to strong-arm people into submitting genetic samples
| for your private database by abusing your position of power to
| invent felonies for them and I don't think these people are dumb,
| they know that what they are doing is awful.
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| Just weird to me how I feel like everyone is infuriated all the
| time by everything, things order if magnitude less messed up than
| this, but then these people exist in this magic bubble where no
| one is bothered by this. Doesn't make sense to me.
| akudha wrote:
| Few years ago, the Kuwaiti govt started collecting DNA from
| _every_ person in the country.
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| There was also a news article about British schools collecting
| DNA of their students and passing it to the cops (don't know if
| this is fake news or not).
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| We are not far from the scenario where some every human's DNA
| is in some massive database, Wikipedia style.
| pjc50 wrote:
| No, they think they're saving the world, or at least their part
| of it, from crime. People use that as justification for all
| sorts of abuse. After all, who would prosecute a prosecutor?
| AtlasBarfed wrote:
| Maybe because the underlying assumption is that the
| dark/little/poor people are the only ones this will be used on?
| The ivory towers care about virtue signalling and property
| values.
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| But if you notice, there is a big crime wave in SF... which
| threatens property values. Genetics database? Double plus good!
| NoImmatureAdHom wrote:
| The Maryland (?) Supreme Court case made me think that some
| involve just misunderstand DNA...they think of it as something
| like a very long random string that makes for a good, unique
| identifier. That is, of course, completely wrong. I can know
| all sorts of things about you that are, or should be,
| private...like who your real parents / kids are, whether you're
| likely to get cancer or not, whether you are intersex, etc.
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