[HN Gopher] The Work of Art in the Age of Second-Order Observation
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       The Work of Art in the Age of Second-Order Observation
        
       Author : cton
       Score  : 33 points
       Date   : 2021-07-01 10:51 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | inetsee wrote:
       | Can I get an NFT of an invisible sculpture? Or, more importantly,
       | can I sell one?
        
       | throwamon wrote:
       | The only thing I "learned" from this Salvatore Garau in this text
       | is that this sort of art is but one expensive form of
       | institutionalization of commercial bullshit.
        
         | platz wrote:
         | Have you tried reading artist statements before.
        
           | harvey9 wrote:
           | Sometimes interesting. But I recall an ugly mess on the wall
           | of Tate Modern with a card below which included "...then we
           | shot it with a real gun..." . Britain has very strict gun
           | laws so most people have never used one. Use of the word
           | 'real' left me with the impression the artist had gotten over
           | excited at something which is commonplace in other countries,
           | and confused that with creative endeavor.
        
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         | NtochkaNzvanova wrote:
         | You might enjoy the film "The Square":
         | https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4995790/. Hilarious send-up of
         | this BS. Try to avoid reading any spoilers, it'll be much
         | better that way.
        
       | bellyfullofbac wrote:
       | Just like the emperor had no clothes, whoever bought this has no
       | art.
        
         | tagami wrote:
         | Your post validates the artist's intent.
        
         | beckingz wrote:
         | They purchased no art, and that in and of itself is art.
        
           | teekert wrote:
           | I hope they paid with a large bag of invisible money.
        
       | AlbertCory wrote:
       | Tom Wolfe (RIP) wrote "The Painted Word" in 2008 which pretty
       | well summarized all this.
       | 
       | Those can make art, make art. Those who can't, write artist's
       | statements. And those who can't do that, write impenetrable
       | essays about it.
        
       | tarr11 wrote:
       | This article explained a lot to me about why people purchase
       | these types of things.
       | 
       | https://newrepublic.com/article/147192/modern-art-serves-ric...
        
         | anm89 wrote:
         | That article is really fascinating
        
       | lisper wrote:
       | The line between art and trolling is becoming increasingly
       | difficult for me to discern. If indeed there ever even was such a
       | line.
        
       | barathr wrote:
       | > 'Beware of first- hand ideas!' exclaimed one of the most
       | advanced of them. 'First-hand ideas do not really exist. They are
       | but the physical impressions produced by love and fear, and on
       | this gross foundation who could erect a philosophy? Let your
       | ideas be second-hand, and if possible tenth-hand, for then they
       | will be far removed from that disturbing element - direct
       | observation.
       | 
       | (The Machine Stops, 1909, E.M. Forster)
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       | https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Machine_Stops
        
         | anm89 wrote:
         | Just reead through "The Machine Stops". That is unbelievably
         | ahead of its time. Great read
        
       | draw_down wrote:
       | This is such masturbatory silliness.
        
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