[HN Gopher] Neeva: Ad-free, subscription-based search engine lau...
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Neeva: Ad-free, subscription-based search engine launches
Author : mrry
Score : 41 points
Date : 2021-06-29 15:05 UTC (7 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (neeva.com)
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| bun_at_work wrote:
| This is super exciting. Every single "free" service that is
| supported by ad revenue should have a counterpart that is paid
| instead.
|
| I'm excited to try this, although I do tons of search from iOS,
| and want to know if this can be selected as the default search
| engine. It isn't clear from the FAQ.
| proxyforce wrote:
| Apologies for the confusion. We have our own iOS browser app
| which you can try here: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/neeva-
| browser-search-engine/id....
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| Also, we have instructions for setting Neeva as the default
| search on mobile Firefox and Chrome, along with a "workaround"
| for Safari: https://help.neeva.com/hc/en-
| us/articles/1500011550601-How-t...
|
| (I'm an engineer working on Neeva)
| bigpumpkin wrote:
| Feels laggy compared to google.
| vertis wrote:
| > Coming soon to your region! > Enter your email to join
| our waitlist, and we'll get in touch as soon as Neeva is
| available in your corner of the world.
|
| Not available unless you live in the US I guess
| dvh wrote:
| I've seen this strategy in movie and music business and the
| only reason I can think of is that they don't actually want to
| sell the product. Their real income is from something else,
| like sub-licensing to third-parties, so that they don't have to
| handle end users which is labor intensive. Or maybe they just
| want to get bought.
| denysvitali wrote:
| I would say that, generally speaking, data regulation is
| another huge topic. Not sure if how much it applies here
| though, but considering they process payments and similar,
| they need to implement GDPR stuff for Europe
| proxyforce wrote:
| Hey guys, I work on Neeva and wanted to add some more
| context re: US only launch. We work with partners to
| provide localized data for results such as weather, sports,
| movies and more. We're working hard to get these
| partnerships in place beyond the US, and we expect to
| launch in Canada and Western Europe within a few quarters.
| merlinscholz wrote:
| Interesting that there is no mention of Brave Search here, a
| subscription-based search engine in public beta:
| https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/23/22547158/brave-search-bet...
| browningstreet wrote:
| I was approved for their beta, but they wanted to install an
| extension. Then I tried their reveal today, need an account just
| to see. Maybe they'll get the buzz they're looking for, but I
| don't trust their product management I'd this is how the test and
| launch.
| giancarlostoro wrote:
| Looks like it's a $5 a month search engine. This is something
| I've kind of wanted for ages, so I guess I'll sign up and see how
| it works. I secretly wish Mozilla the corporation would of made
| their own search engine with a subscription model ages ago.
|
| Mozilla corp / non-profit has a history somewhat similar to
| Google's where they seem to build things they phase out, and not
| do things to make themselve sustainable enough to not have to
| mass fire people who do a net good for the greater internet
| community that relies on them (thinking of MDN).
| herlitzj wrote:
| Ads aren't the only problem. All the SEO clickbait is worse than
| the ads in my opinion. I can ignore the ads, but anymore a lot of
| the time the first page or two of results are just clickbait
| junk. Look at their example results. #3 looks like an SEO
| clickbait site to me.
|
| edit: Looks like you can customize results somewhat, so maybe
| that will help? A quick way to silence those kinds of hits would
| be nice.
| MiddleEndian wrote:
| For those who have joined, I'm curious about the following
| query:
|
| Are women better than men at limbo?
|
| The results on Google[0] and Bing[1] are both entirely useless
| clickbait. I just want to know if women can bend back farther
| than men without falling over.
|
| 0. https://www.middleendian.com/limbogoogle.png
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| 1. https://www.middleendian.com/limbobing.png
| bun_at_work wrote:
| I don't know enough about SEO/web crawlers, so this might be a
| silly question, but there is a way to identify SEO optimized
| websites, right? Isn't there a special file or something?
|
| Not sure if it'd be optimal, but dropping all search results
| with such optimization might bring a more broad search across
| the internet (more sites than just the common clickbait ones).
| _manifold wrote:
| Dropping SEO optimized results from a search is a bit of an
| oxymoronical idea. You'd essentially be punishing websites
| for simply ranking higher in search results which doesn't
| make sense.
| DenverCode wrote:
| The vast majority of SEO optimization at this point is
| through backlinks, internal keywords, meta tags, links,
| headings, keyword usage, etc.
| kilodeca wrote:
| Is this open source?
| bla3 wrote:
| No.
| kilodeca wrote:
| Then why the hell it exists?
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| Barrin92 wrote:
| I'm a little bit skeptical about this notion that the ad model is
| fundamentally detrimental to the search results that Google gives
| you. It honestly doesn't even seem like it makes business sense.
| At the end of the day Google benefits from giving the most
| accurate results in the long term, and it's such a money printing
| engine I don't think they're degrading the search quality.
|
| Whenever I tried privacy-first or "non-ad" search engines, most
| recently duckduckgo, I found myself spamming !g a lot.
|
| It's nice to have an alternative obviously and I hope it's
| sustainable to have a paid search engine but it in some sense
| seems more like a lifestyle product to me.
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