[HN Gopher] Watermark: Along the California Aqueduct (2015)
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Watermark: Along the California Aqueduct (2015)
Author : samclemens
Score : 18 points
Date : 2021-06-25 23:18 UTC (2 days ago)
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| slownews45 wrote:
| The interesting thing is that despite claims of shortages
| California water is essentially given away for free and there is
| plenty of it.
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| Setting a tax of 1 cent per gallon would likely solve water use
| issues (you'd still have distribution likely to sort out).
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| They actually grow alfalfa in the desert out here - imperial
| valley has ET rates of something like 60 inches(!!!!). That's 60
| inches of water!
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| Maybe 5 million acre feet of water just for alfalfa (yes - in
| some cases exported to china).
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| 8 trillion gallons of water for a crop that sells for $200 a ton.
| Meanwhile places without the subsidies can't grow it even if
| climate is better because they don't have this massive subsidy.
|
| Umm.... this only works because water is basically cheap / free -
| growing rice and alfalfa are crazy in desert areas.
| wnissen wrote:
| Just a reminder that California has a ton of water. Plenty to
| supply all the people and lawns and a bunch of agriculture. What
| it doesn't have is enough to send a million tons of alfalfa
| overseas at $200 a pop. Each ton uses more water than a household
| does in a year. I bet you paid way more than $200 in water bills
| last year.
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| Yes, there are many locations that are actually short on water
| for real. Some of them are in very bad shape, with depleted
| reservoirs and aquifers and no prospect for access to more water
| resources. But the vast majority of Californians are getting
| their water from places where there would be surplus if the
| consumption wasn't so heavily subsidized. Read Cadillac Desert,
| it's a masterpiece and an eye opener.
| oh_sigh wrote:
| I feel like there needs to be some kind of reckoning when it
| comes to water rights in CA. Like, say that water rights will
| be rationalized 25 years from now. Maybe it can be done under
| the guise of eminent domain. Give farmers who are getting
| essentially taxpayer subsidized free water enough time to
| prepare for it, and then 25 years from now create some kind of
| market based system where water goes to 1) people, and 2)
| whoever can use it most productively. Farmers can buy/sell
| water futures if they need higher certainty in what they will
| pay rather than a rate based on demand.
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| It just doesn't make sense that the fact that a plot of land
| which was occupied 300+ years ago is setting the precedent for
| how we use water today.
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