[HN Gopher] The Dawn of Haiku OS (2012)
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       The Dawn of Haiku OS (2012)
        
       Author : bitigchi
       Score  : 38 points
       Date   : 2021-06-24 13:01 UTC (10 hours ago)
        
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       | dang wrote:
       | Discussed at the time (of the article):
       | 
       |  _The Dawn of Haiku OS_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3904972 - April 2012 (110
       | comments)
        
       | wodenokoto wrote:
       | Would haiku be the best option for the next generation of kodi
       | players, instead of things like Linux or Android?
       | 
       | Wasn't beOS great for playing media or has the playing field been
       | leveled over the decades?
        
         | paulryanrogers wrote:
         | IMO hardware driver support is the key to performance at every
         | level, embedded to bigiron. OS architectures are important,
         | though most supporting smaller devices are good enough for most
         | media needs up to ~2K and 60fps.
        
         | zozbot234 wrote:
         | Isn't Linux supposed to be getting PREEMPT_RT ("realtime
         | patch") support any day now? That should bring us to full
         | feature parity with BeOS/Haiku at least on the kernel side.
        
       | Simulacra wrote:
       | Ah the nostalgia. I loved BeOS!
        
         | janandonly wrote:
         | I remember fondly opening a whole slew of video's by mistake. I
         | expected BeOS to crash, but instead, it played them all at
         | once.
         | 
         | I recently bought an Apple MacBook air with a M1 chip and only
         | now has my system a similar performance as my Pentium 4 with
         | BeOS used to have almost 20 years ago!
        
           | handrous wrote:
           | iOS is the only remotely-mainstream GUI OS I know of that
           | feels similar to BeOS, in terms of responsiveness to user
           | interaction, though I'd say that's less true now than it was
           | several versions ago, even on very new devices. 3-6, and the
           | hardware those versions ran on at release, seemed like the
           | sweet spot for magically-instant responsiveness to input.
           | 
           | Agreed that M1s with macOS have temporarily given something
           | _kinda_ resembling that back to the desktop, though I 'm sure
           | developers are toiling even now to make sure it feels slow a
           | year or two from now (mostly _not_ developers at Apple, to be
           | clear).
        
           | Joker_vD wrote:
           | I remember a joke from the times of Windows Vista, I believe,
           | that after updating to it, you'll need to have at least a
           | 2-core processor to be able to watch a video simultaneously.
           | Simultaneously _with what_? Simultaneously with Windows! :)
        
           | jbverschoor wrote:
           | Yeah it's kind of insane.. but I'm very happy with my snappy
           | M1 lappy
        
           | Jtsummers wrote:
           | The performance (though limited due to overall software
           | availability) of BeOS and QNX circa 2000 were incredibly
           | impressive compared to either Windows 2000 or GNU/Linux.
           | 
           | Cleaner designs that just seemed better at actually making
           | use of the available hardware, even though it was a single
           | core Pentium 3 (or my parents older first gen Pentium).
           | 
           | I often ponder how things would've been different if
           | something more like them had taken off and become mainstream.
        
             | slantyyz wrote:
             | > I often ponder how things would've been different if
             | something more like them had taken off and become
             | mainstream.
             | 
             | IIRC, as it relates to BeOS, Apple was going to acquire
             | BeOS or NeXT and opted for NeXT.
             | 
             | If Apple had gone with BeOS, the computing world would
             | probably be a very different place today, given all the
             | great things Apple did after Steve Jobs came back.
             | 
             | An alternate reality where Apple acquires BeOS over NeXT
             | does make for an interesting "what if" story though.
        
               | Grazester wrote:
               | BeOS was not as stable and complete an OS as NexTSTEP. It
               | would have taken longer for Apple to launch their version
               | of the OS and Apple was in a hole in the late 90's. As
               | you noted there would be no Jobs which came with the OS.
        
               | jbverschoor wrote:
               | We would have had someone with hard nipples :-D (JLG)
               | 
               | The BeOS C++ api was nice to work with, and every little
               | thing was a thread. I think if it became more mainstream
               | we might have had a higher core-count.
               | 
               | I wrote a simple windows implemention of the BApplication
               | and BWindow etc. classes, which allowed me to compile to
               | two platforms :-) I was very interested in OSes at the
               | time, and ran BeOS at my job at DeltaKabel / Lucent
        
         | c01n wrote:
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eMGbDJmgv0 you are welcome.
        
       | bebop wrote:
       | R1/beta3 just had its first rc cut the other day. Exciting to see
       | this operating system continue on towards a first release. The
       | risc-v port is gaining decent support as well.
        
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