[HN Gopher] Amtrak relaunches US Rail Pass - Travel the country ...
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       Amtrak relaunches US Rail Pass - Travel the country for 30 days for
       $299
        
       Author : chirau
       Score  : 69 points
       Date   : 2021-06-21 14:08 UTC (8 hours ago)
        
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       | dragontamer wrote:
       | Train Rides seem to be ideal for any trip less than 4 hours.
       | 
       | You don't have as much security concerns, you have far more
       | legroom, and the constant ability to walk around the cabin at all
       | times (often to the dining car where you can get overpriced beer
       | / light meals, but... better than nothing at all). Hour-for-hour,
       | a train ride is far more comfortable than a plane ride.
       | 
       | However, once we start looking at 4-hour or 8-hour train rides,
       | the idea of a 2-hour or 3-hour plane ride just starts to make
       | more sense, even with 30+ minutes of security + many minutes of
       | "Taxi'ing on the runway" involved. Flying at 500mph just makes
       | more sense than train rides at 50mph.
       | 
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       | An exception is when the ride itself is part of the journey: if
       | you want to see the entire countryside, the train is superior.
       | 
       | Planes fly over everything and are often high up in the clouds,
       | so you don't get to see the whole ground.
        
         | CPLNTN wrote:
         | Living in Europe and traveling by train for 7/8 hours every two
         | months for work. What kind of shitty train does only 50mph?
         | 
         | I would say the convenience it's highly dependent on the
         | destination. Here the train station it's often near the city
         | center while to get to the airport you need additional
         | transportation, As you said you have more legroom but also
         | there is enough space to use a laptop and actually work
         | connected to Wi-Fi. I'm not limited in what and how much I can
         | carry with me, and the train is much quieter than a plane. And
         | finally, the train is much less stressful and traveling time
         | doesn't really matter when is the company's time.
         | 
         | I would say that if you don't have an airport in a 30km radius
         | from the destination, the train still wins around until 8hours
         | trips. Above, I would consider travelling with the airplane.
        
         | weimerica wrote:
         | When I did my post-secondary Eurotrip I purchased the Euro pass
         | and scheduled my train travels to be overnight such that I
         | could wake up in a new city. Leave Sweden to wake up in Berlin,
         | leave Berlin to wake up in Nurnberg, etc.
         | 
         | Made for a great form of travel IMHO. Got to wake up and watch
         | the sunrise over the countrysides was beautiful. Though I do
         | love your point, I'd love to travel the "Wild West" regions via
         | train.
        
         | JKCalhoun wrote:
         | Agree. (And bring your own food.)
         | 
         | I would love to see someone come up with a few US Rail Pass
         | itineraries for those of us needing a hand to hold.
         | 
         | It would seem to be a rather fun thing to blog. It's almost a
         | puzzle of sorts to keep it to 10 trips, within 30 days,
         | maximize the tourism potential (whatever that means) with
         | Amtrak lines. Bonus points for things to see at each
         | destination, food, cheap places to stay....
        
           | dragontamer wrote:
           | I have to imagine that just running along the Northeast
           | Regional is the big one. Its the most profitable line of
           | Amtrak for a reason.
           | 
           | Norfolk Virginia is just a short bus-ride to Virginia Beach
           | and serves as either the starting point, or ending point of
           | the journey.
           | 
           | Travel north to Washington DC, then Philadelphia, then New
           | York City, and then Boston. That takes you across a major
           | cultural center of the USA that pretty much covers the
           | founding of the country (Philadelphia being the original
           | capital of the USA and the location of the Liberty Bell and
           | original Continental Congress. Wash. DC as the current
           | capitol, a beach trip just for giggles, and NYC for plays /
           | New York talk shows / food / etc. etc.)
           | 
           | The train is ridiculously optimized for New York City /
           | Washington DC, with a dropoff point in Union Station Wash. DC
           | and Penn Station in New York City. Both are connected
           | underground to the greater subway systems, so you pretty much
           | have access to the entirety of both cities from the train
           | alone. (In contrast: an airplane ticket to either location
           | will still need an Uber / Taxi to bring you into the city
           | proper).
           | 
           | Union Station in Wash. DC in particular is less than a 1-mile
           | walk from the US Capitol building, a bit over 1-mile to the
           | Smithsonian proper.
           | 
           | While Penn Station is literally next to Madison Square
           | Garden, so you're able to just get out and enjoy some
           | basketball events. You're on Manhattan Island proper, and the
           | subway will take you to any reasonable tourist attraction.
        
             | JKCalhoun wrote:
             | I would counter that the Starlight Express on the West
             | coast as well as the California Zephyr between Emeryville,
             | CA and, say, Denver, CO are probably two of the more
             | stunning routes for the scenery?
        
               | RosanaAnaDana wrote:
               | Southwest Chief is the king of western Rail routes. Air
               | conditioned car and the phenomenal almost alien beauty of
               | the desert southwest. No reason to take it past ABQ
               | however.
        
               | dragontamer wrote:
               | That's a good point.
               | 
               | Northeast regional is pretty much traversing over the
               | megacity that is the WashDC -> New York City area. You're
               | looking at people and culture, and probably need to plan
               | your route very carefully (Ex: to ensure you actually
               | have something to do in NYC, you might want to buy some
               | Broadway tickets, or find a ticket to your favorite talk-
               | show host).
               | 
               | In contrast, California Zephyr / Starlight Express has a
               | lot more rugged mountains, stunning coastlines, and
               | nature to explore. This is a longer route but you
               | traverse across much more "nature" so to speak.
               | 
               | So it depends what you want to see.
        
         | HWR_14 wrote:
         | Trains are also great if you can sleep on the go. Board a train
         | at night with no real wait. Settle in and sleep. Wake up
         | halfway across the country. As long as you want to stop and
         | explore (possibly small) cities along the way it's a great way
         | to travel.
        
         | jdhn wrote:
         | >You don't have as much security concerns
         | 
         | For now. I feel that it's only a matter of time before the TSA
         | gets involved, and that train ride that was hyped up as being
         | quicker than a plane ride will suddenly no longer be as quick.
        
       | nrclark wrote:
       | From my experience taking Amtrak in California, a 30-day pass
       | sounds just about long enough to cover the delays on a single
       | ride.
        
         | asguy wrote:
         | What years was this? I've ridden the Pacific Surfliner a bunch,
         | and have only had minimal hiccups. And a bunch of interactions
         | with the mentally unstable, but that's not Amtrak's fault.
        
           | RosanaAnaDana wrote:
           | I've taken the Starlight enough times to just plan an 8 hour
           | delay into the trip.
        
       | jefurii wrote:
       | Back in the 90s I travelled all over Japan using a similar
       | railpass (seishun18kippu). It was a really relaxing and enjoyable
       | way to spend a vacation, but then Japan has lots of cool stuff to
       | see within easy distance of train stations. Some of my best
       | memories of Japan are from those journeys.
       | 
       | Japan's system was a lot easier to use than the Railpass though:
       | reservations were not required, you just took whatever seat was
       | available, and Japanese trains are structured so there are a lot
       | more seats.
       | 
       | Gallery of posters for the service:
       | http://www.satou3.com/railways/18kippu2.html
        
       | usr1106 wrote:
       | $299 for 30 days sounded to good to be true. I used it nearly 30
       | years ago and it was something like that.
       | 
       | But it's really $499 after the introductory offer ending already
       | the day after tomorrow. And it's limited to 10 trips, which can
       | be problem if you also want to do some shorter day trips e.g. in
       | the Northeast.
        
       | listenallyall wrote:
       | Up until a few years ago, AirAsia had a similar program. Flight
       | routes were designated in 1, 2, or 3 points, and for just about
       | $280US you got about 30 points to use in 60 days. You had to plan
       | in advance and be willing to fly at very off-peak times, but you
       | could easily visit a dozen cities all over SE Asia and get a
       | value worth double of what it cost. Really wish they would bring
       | that back!
        
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