[HN Gopher] OrganicMaps is Android and iOS offline maps for trav...
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OrganicMaps is Android and iOS offline maps for travel without
trackers or ads
Author : wertik13
Score : 320 points
Date : 2021-06-21 06:42 UTC (16 hours ago)
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| duiker101 wrote:
| I really really want to move away from Google Maps but I just
| can't due to the reviews... The few other apps that can
| substitute the reviews are always focused on one specific
| thing(mostly restaurants). Is there any app that uses OSM data
| with reviews?
| blackboxlogic wrote:
| Would you be interested in starting an open source business
| review project?
| zaik wrote:
| This already exists: https://openplacereviews.org/
|
| There is even a plugin for OSMAnd but I have not tried it
| yet.
| blackboxlogic wrote:
| Thanks for pointing that out. I was not expecting: "Data is
| stored in a blockchain form"
| Jiejeing wrote:
| Maps.me, from which this is derived, uses third-party data
| (e.g. booking.com, etc), to integrate both booking and reviews
| into the map. I ultimately went away because maps.me is a real
| sinkhole of personal data, but experience is otherwise pretty
| good (and the tiles look better than osmand for sure).
| npteljes wrote:
| You could check out reviews on gmaps and use Organic Maps or
| OSMAnd for everything else. A bit of a pain, maybe, but change
| is rarely trivial.
| hansel_der wrote:
| maybe worth it to make up your own mind
| squiggleblaz wrote:
| I don't find reviews helpful in making a decision for a
| restaurant - as long as the food isn't so bad it'll make me
| sick it's fine. I do like to see the menus and opening hours,
| though.
|
| But a lot of people really do appreciate that kind of help,
| so much so I don't think any competitor will get anywhere
| without that kind of data.
| gegtik wrote:
| are you under the impression he eats at a restaurant and then
| checks reviews to see if it was good?
| RicoElectrico wrote:
| I think we collectively concluded some time ago that reviews
| are worthless, even on GMaps?
| starsep wrote:
| I stopped using GMaps and I still don't think they are
| worthless. Some companies buy fake reviews, some use shady
| techniques such as free drink/appetizer for a review. In my
| experience so far those are exceptions, not standard. I think
| corelation between quality and GMaps average review score is
| quite high - at least for restaurants.
| h0nd wrote:
| Honestly, using it for daily hotel searches for 500 days: The
| reviews are not worthless.
|
| It requires a lot of sorting out and the results have to be
| taken with a grain of salt.
| Freak_NL wrote:
| > Organic Maps is an Android & iOS offline maps app for
| travelers, tourists, hikers, and cyclists based on top of crowd-
| sourced OpenStreetMap data [...]
|
| Good to see the source data mentioned right at the top, where it
| should be.
|
| > [...] and curated with love by MAPS.ME founders.
|
| What does that mean? Not the nonsensical 'with love' part (that
| sounds unpleasantly sticky), but the curation; what is being
| curated? Is the source map data being hand-picked or modified, or
| is this just an opaque term for 'we built an app that gives you
| OSM in a handy offline format with custom rendering'?
| _fat_santa wrote:
| I was previously a big fan of Maps.me but they recently
| introduced a "Wallet" feature which is just really wired for a
| Navigation app to offer. Just looking at the UI of this app it
| looks like an "OSS" version where all the extra features are
| tossed out.
|
| Huge thanks to the authors of this.
| Symbiote wrote:
| Should motorways be shown first at zoom level 3 or 4? Some
| countries will look cluttered with them at zoom 3, but they're
| useful for very long route planning.
|
| Should railways be feint and almost invisible (like Google
| Maps) or dark (like the OpenStreetMap default theme)? In many
| countries, they're very useful even for pedestrian navigation,
| "turn right after the railway bridge" etc, but I assume in the
| USA they're considered clutter.
|
| What points of interest should be shown first, major tourist
| attractions or landmarks, or large shops?
|
| Should gardens be green (almost everyone), or do we just ignore
| them and leave them grey (Google Maps)?
|
| There are a lot of decisions that go into designing a map, even
| using Open Street Map data.
| developer93 wrote:
| The standard osm app is already offline, although the ux could
| be improved
| bobiny wrote:
| There is no standard osm app on iOS. Top hit is OsmAnd and
| it's not free.
| rob74 wrote:
| There is a free version, but with the free version you can
| only download a limited number of "regions" (a "region"
| could be a small country or a subdivision of a larger
| country).
| xattt wrote:
| I thought a highly functional version was Magic Earth.
| RealStickman_ wrote:
| OsmAnd has two versions on the Play Store. One free and one
| paid (OsmAnd+). On F-Droid OsmAnd+ is available for free.
| rjmunro wrote:
| Either way it's not a "standard OSM app", just a popular
| one.
| developer93 wrote:
| You're absolutely right, I was thinking of osmAnd, maybe
| I should have said biggest instead of standard, whatever
| thanks for your correction
| hansel_der wrote:
| i cosider it the reference implementation
| Freak_NL wrote:
| It isn't though. The Carto rendering style shown on
| openstreetmap.org is as close as we get to having a
| reference implementation. Osmand, while a good product,
| is much further removed from the OSM community.
| Mediterraneo10 wrote:
| Without getting into how official a product OSMAnd can be
| considered, I think it's worth pointing out that Carto
| has limitations that OSMAnd improves on. Due to OSMAnd's
| configurable vector drawing, it is possible to make the
| map show road surfaces or whether roads are lit. These
| are features missing from official OSM.org, which of
| course serves as little more than a tech demo.
| bobiny wrote:
| Well, on iOS the app is free, but you can download a
| limited number of maps. Then it's either subscription or
| payment for individual regions. Maps.me or Google or
| Yandex maps have free downloads. Organic maps also claim
| not to track activity.
| rob74 wrote:
| Yup... but it also helps to know that OSM is not a cheap
| surrogate for the above-mentioned commercial services,
| for hiking or cycling it's actually _much better_ - at
| least as far as the map is concerned, the navigation
| features of the apps I tried until now are unfortunately
| a bit lacking.
| jamessb wrote:
| Organic Maps is a fork of MAPS.ME, after MAPS.ME jumped the
| shark and pivoted to something involving cryptocurency.
|
| I think that "curated" refers to maintenance/development of the
| open-source project.
|
| By "curated ... by MAPS.ME fouders" they mean that the Organic
| Maps maintainers include founders of the original MAPS.ME
| project (e.e.g, biodrankik is Alexander Borsuk, a former co-
| foudner, CEO, CTO of MAPS.ME [1,2]), which suggests that they
| have the experience to continue updating the app.
|
| [1]: https://github.com/biodranik [2]: https://alex.bio/
| jakobdabo wrote:
| > What does that mean?
|
| Most likely it is a direct translation from Russian by a non-
| native English speaker. I guess "curated" should have been
| "developed" or some other similar word.
| squiggleblaz wrote:
| There's nothing wrong with the English word "curated". I
| think pp is being a little punctilious. The writer just means
| that they aren't giving you a random data dump, they've
| engaged in some activity analogous to e.g. the curator of a
| museum, to select which data is worth showing. Pp is asking
| "does this mean that they have made a specific decision about
| all the data that is shown?" when I think it means they've
| probably tweaked parameters to show information they find
| useful given various densities and contexts.
|
| How good their curation is remains to be seen of course.
| seb1204 wrote:
| Yes that is what I thought. They have developed a style,
| icons, colour scheme etc for the app. To show you the data
| in a visually pleasing for that they think is good.
| mananaysiempre wrote:
| Unlikely, as there's no Russian verb that directly
| corresponds to "curate"; the loanword kurirovat'
| _kurir|ovat'_ is (of course) etymologically related but
| refers to managing, mentoring, or otherwise overseeing people
| or organizations, not things, and the sense of using one's
| judgment to choose and present a subset of a collection is
| instead usually expressed by a word (roughly) meaning
| "select, choose" that does not convey an implication of being
| in charge. Neither has much to do with the words for "code",
| "program", or "develop".
|
| (Source: native speaker.)
|
| I'm somewhat surprised by the reaction here. Does "curating"
| a map really sound so wrong? One can curate libraries,
| museums, exhibitions, bibliographies, or other sorts of
| collections, so is sifting OSM data in order to get something
| presentable so different? I'd have said "lovingly curated"
| rather than "curated with love", but that's another matter.
| rhn_mk1 wrote:
| I think it's rather about the amounts of data we're talking
| about. It's not practical to manually select OSM data for
| the world. An open source project of this size could maybe
| do it for a bigger city. But this is obviously not limited
| to a city.
|
| So what does "curate" mean in that sentence?
| sunshineforever wrote:
| OSM includes practically any mappable data collected for
| free, including even Wikipedia entries with a physical
| location. I assume curating means deciding the relevance
| of stuff like this and making into a map thats similar to
| google maps. Curate has also lost a lot of its meaning
| after ~5 years of ad spam. "This holiday, Lexus presents
| a curated grifting experience" (leaving in the
| autocorrect typo, sorry)
| mananaysiempre wrote:
| I don't rightly know what it means. Probably what you'd
| guess it does: a big ol' pile of good-enough heuristic
| filters and transformations tuned on a handful of key
| locations, with a pinch of manual modification.
|
| I was only surprised at the claim that the sentence
| doesn't make sense in English, I never intended to imply
| that the sense wasn't bullshit. (After the sellout stunt
| the MAPS.ME creators pulled I generally don't view their
| participation as an advantage.)
| sunshineforever wrote:
| They are balking simply because "curated" is a word that's
| become trendy for years in the tech/startup world and they
| are tired of hearing it.
| whazor wrote:
| Openstreetmaps provides a lot more data than you see in the OSM
| map. You choose which data, such as terrain and road types, the
| user sees and therefore you could call it curation.
| maxerickson wrote:
| It's a reasonable word for the many interpretive choices that
| go into translating data into a map. What to include, when to
| show it, etc.
| rob74 wrote:
| I realize it's no small feat to take the firehose of data you
| get from OSM and turn it into something usable. Other apps
| like OsmAnd have several presets and lots of knobs you can
| tweak to (hopefully) display the map exactly as you want it,
| but most users are too lazy for that, so there is definitely
| a niche for an app using a single algorithm that fits most
| use cases...
|
| ...but "curated with love by MAPS.ME founders", with
| "OpenStreetMap data" right before it, definitely sounds like
| some kind of manual process is involved - because that's what
| a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curator does, and that's
| usually a real person, not an algorithm. So, if it's an
| algorithm, the text is misleading.
| maxerickson wrote:
| But it isn't "an algorithm", it's hundreds or thousands of
| decisions about how to interpret data.
|
| For instance, https://cycle.travel uses different rules to
| interpret data in different countries, because between
| differences in mapping practices, differences in
| infrastructure and differences in laws, you need to do that
| to have a good experience.
| matkoniecz wrote:
| > But it isn't "an algorithm", it's hundreds or thousands
| of decisions about how to interpret data.
|
| Map style can be described as an algorithm, but it is a
| human made one so curation definitely is present.
| rob74 wrote:
| Ok, then it's a complicated algorithm, "lovingly hand-
| tuned" to give optimal results despite of inconsistencies
| in the data. I'm beginning to understand what they mean -
| but "curated" still sounds off to me...
| dylan604 wrote:
| You're free to not use the app because you don't like the
| marketing.
| rickspencer3 wrote:
| I'm really glad that projects like this exist.
|
| I note that they site privacy as their #1 advantage:
| * Respects your privacy * Saves your battery * No
| unexpected mobile data charges
|
| In my opinion, people have given up caring about privacy and
| expect to receive an inferior experience from products that
| proclaim this. Therefore, again imo, products that focus on
| privacy and such will remain niche.
|
| I suspect that the world is ready for paid services that provide
| a better Ux. I am thinking about how Netflix supposedly put a
| dent in piracy. People were willing to pay for content with a
| better Ux.
|
| Aside from saving battery and no surprised mobile data charges,
| the list many other benefits: * No ads *
| No annoying registration * No mandatory tutorials *
| No noisy email spam * No push notifications * No
| crapware
|
| I wonder if a project could charge a small monthly fee if they
| focused on these user benefits that everyone cares about, and
| partially use that money to support OSM and partially use the
| money to support themselves?
| pja wrote:
| OSMAnd+ plus does exactly that.
|
| OrganicMaps looks like it might have a better UI though.
| teekert wrote:
| OSMAnd plus is only free on F-Droid, on an iOS device it's
| pretty expensive or limited.
| drewmol wrote:
| Wondered what expensive meant, On iOS full featured is
| currently 2/mo or 8/yr, no lifetime license.
| CaptainZapp wrote:
| The full version for Android was about 12 bucks. The major
| difference, at least to my understanding, is the unlimited
| download of maps.
|
| For me that's the killer argument and absolutely worth the
| price.
|
| I think it really speaks for the developers to make it
| available for free to F-Droid users and personally I think
| it's a low price for a - for me - great app.
| teekert wrote:
| Yeah, I guess you are right, you get a lot for those 12
| euros (or whatever it is, I can't really find it, but I
| remember a screen with costs for extra maps, altitude
| data, etc).
|
| Edit: Ah found it, unlimited maps are 12.99 eur once,
| OsmAnd Live (Wikipedia offline integration and Altitude
| lines and shades) are 7.99 euros a year. This is all free
| on F-Droid.
| maxerickson wrote:
| It's free on F-Droid because they haven't bothered to
| implement technical countermeasures to unpaid downloads.
| The app developers are still updating that content and
| providing the bandwidth.
| Sunspark wrote:
| I don't like OSMAnd+ because on Android panning and scrolling
| around is slow even if you have pre-downloaded a map. Other
| apps have a more fluid interface.
| Fronzie wrote:
| The routing of OSMAnd+ is limited to a few hundred
| kilometers. On holidays I do do longer trips. OrganicMaps
| should still have the contraction-hierarchy routing which
| scales better for longer distance routing.
| Mediterraneo10 wrote:
| OSMAnd doesn't always have routing limited to a few hundred
| kilometers. If one is cycle-touring, then the Brouter
| engine plugin for OSMAnd can be installed and that
| generates pretty quickly very long-distance routes.
|
| But with regard to planning long car journeys, there is
| always the option of generating the route using one of the
| several OSM-based routing engines on the web, then
| downloading a GPX file, opening it in OSMAnd, and telling
| OSMAnd that is the route you want to follow.
| rciorba wrote:
| I just add intermediary way-points for long routes. Works
| well enough.
| npteljes wrote:
| Not sure why you're downvoted, it's a legit problem,
| especially if practically any other engine doesn't have a
| problem with it. In reality I think I'd just split my route
| to get around the problem and call it a day, but it was
| convenient to not think about this, when planning my 800 km
| drive.
| maxerickson wrote:
| I just tested, OSMAnd generates a 900 km route on my
| phone in one go, in about 10 seconds.
| indigochill wrote:
| > People were willing to pay for content with a better Ux.
|
| If I may run with this in an irrelevant tangent for a moment, I
| actually feel like Netflix's UX (on their PC client) is worse
| (in some ways) than pirate streaming sites I've seen. The main
| pain point for me is that Netflix tries to optimize for
| engagement and in so doing, conceals a massive back catalogue
| of things I'll never see they have unless I try to go looking
| for them.
|
| By contrast, some easily found pirate streaming sites simply
| have a running list of whatever new content they've acquired
| regardless of popularity/advertising budget/etc. When I just
| want to watch _something_, seeing new stuff pretty much
| constantly is actually a bonus even if it's not always as
| polished as the top stuff that sticks to the top of Netflix's
| recommendations for months at a time. Also, pirate sites
| benefit from not observing the publisher-enforced balkanization
| of content across Netflix/Amazon/HBO/etc.
|
| Of course, piracy's still illegal, but my point is I think at
| least for a certain segment of their potential market,
| Netflix's UX still has room for improvement.
| guessbest wrote:
| Why don't piracy sites share more BLM content, BIPOC, and
| promote causes such as universal basic income? Seems like it
| would be something the users would really want.
| collaborative wrote:
| Spot on. Same goes for Steam/etc vs pirate game content
| sites. Random/latest lists are great
| habibur wrote:
| That's what the "Donate to support" links are for I guess.
|
| But this no-ad is hugely under-rated. The web overall is not
| worse place simply because of overflow of ads. And Google or
| big players can't do anything about it they that's their main
| income source.
|
| We need a LetsEncrypt styled disruption here. The field is
| ripe. Waiting for some player.
| kyawzazaw wrote:
| I have started using Neeva
| rickspencer3 wrote:
| right, but I'm talking full on paid, like Neeva. Such
| services can offer personalization because they can support
| themselves without selling your data. If you trust them to
| keep their word, they can use your usage history and data
| only for your own benefit.
| wombat-man wrote:
| Yeah, I'm ready to pay for an excellent maps experience
| WhyNotHugo wrote:
| I'm actually pretty impressed with how responsive the UI is: it's
| as responsive a Apple Maps (unlike Google Maps which is sluggish
| on an iPhone 11 Pro).
|
| The colour pallette is an odd choice I'll say, but that's an
| opinionated thing.
|
| It does have biking directions, which Apple Maps is missing in
| most cities (even in cities where there's more bikes than
| inhabitants like Amsterdam). So I'll definitely be keeping it
| around!
| shadowoflight wrote:
| Ah, I was going to check for biking directions after I got my
| city's map downloaded, glad to hear it has them! That's the one
| thing I've been using Google Maps for because Apple for some
| reason just pretends non-coastal cities don't exist for non-
| car-centric Maps features...
|
| I may request the authors add the ability to use more OSM
| layers, such as a cycling overlay and maybe speed limit overlay
| (I've been told by Google that a street was safe to cycle on-
| road when that street had a 45mph speed limit too many times
| for comfort).
| raybb wrote:
| I wonder what the story is of why this is a fork of maps.me? How
| was maps.me taken away from the founders?
| npteljes wrote:
| Maps.me was bought by another entity [0] and not everyone liked
| the changes.
|
| The forks, like Maps and now OrganicMaps, still use the map
| packages hosted by Mapswithme though.
|
| [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25515004
| npteljes wrote:
| Sounds like a spiritual successor of MAPS.ME.
| mkl wrote:
| It's a fork of Maps.me, so it's an identical successor.
| npteljes wrote:
| Indeed. I checked it out on my phone, and it works the same
| as MAPS.ME did, and also they state this on their github
| repo: "Organic Maps is a better fork of MAPS.ME, an Android &
| iOS offline maps app for travelers, tourists, hikers, and
| cyclists based on top of crowd-sourced OpenStreetMap data and
| curated with love by MAPS.ME founders. No ads, no tracking,
| no data collection, no crapware."
|
| Although, they're still downloading the maps from
| mapswithme.com. It'd be nice to have an alternative
| ecosystem.
| butz wrote:
| Earlier discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27543012
| vadansky wrote:
| Disappointed in the cycling directions. I tried it in Toronto and
| it gave me a route the ignored a road that had a dedicated bike
| lane and directed me to a busy narrow road where you have to
| share with the cars.
| zaik wrote:
| Is it the routing algorithm or just OpenStreetMap not knowing
| about this bike lane? Latter one you could easily fix and help
| others too.
| willis936 wrote:
| I used this a bit after a story about it came up a few days ago.
| Since then they have updated with CarPlay support, which is
| greatly appreciated.
|
| I recently de-Googled, so I've been using Apple Mps. Apple is
| logging my location whether or not I use their first party map
| app, so I still end up using their first party map app because it
| provides traffic information and weighs that in the routing
| algorithm. Practically speaking, that's a big deal to me.
|
| As amazing as OrganicMaps is, the lack of gaining much extra
| privacy on iOS and the lack of traffic information means I
| probably won't be using OrganicMaps too often.
| dvdkon wrote:
| I've used the F-Droid fork of MAPS.ME and now have Organic Maps
| installed. It's much faster than anything web-based and also much
| faster than OsmAnd. I wish I could have OsmAnd with this
| renderer, since now I use both, OsmAnd is just much more feature-
| rich.
| mackrevinack wrote:
| i use both myself. organic maps is a lot nicer for navigation
| and i find it more intuitive to pick the start and the end
| points. searching for POI's in osmAnd much better though, and
| it's easier to do some light osm editing as well
| dellcybpwr wrote:
| Can maps be loaded for an airgapped mobile device?
| system2 wrote:
| I would assume "offline" means exactly that, except of course,
| you will have to enable GPS.
| dellcybpwr wrote:
| The apk is ~60 MB on f-droid, so would assume does not
| include underlying map files. Asking if possible to load them
| without network access.
| npteljes wrote:
| I think it just looks for the files on the specific location,
| and if they're there, it'll happily use it. I think you can
| download it on a connected device, or VM, and then copy them
| over, or maybe create your own with tools such as this:
| https://learnosm.org/en/osm-data/geofabrik-and-hot-export/
| mackrevinack wrote:
| i think with earlier versions of android you could get the
| files in the 'android/data' folder. im using android 11 now so
| there is no access anymore, unless someone adds an option to
| store that data in the 'main storage' folder
| bpye wrote:
| I've used OsmAnd for several years as a secondary maps app. I've
| found OpenStreetMaps to have better data for walking that either
| Apple or Google maps. One issue with OsmAnd however is that map
| drawing feels somewhat sluggish, this app is however fantastic.
| I'll definitely give it a try for the next few weeks. I imagine
| I'll still need to use Apple Maps for transit though - whilst it
| seems to get the route right I can't view step by step
| directions?
| mjthompson wrote:
| Looks great, a little bit of localisation would be good though.
| What are gas stations?
| anguslmm wrote:
| Localization would be a great addition.
|
| Asking for localization and then criticizing another region's
| vernacular is... kind of hilariously ironic. Gas is short for
| Gasoline, which, along with Petrol, came form old names of
| propriety oil products. Neither is a misnomer.
| [deleted]
| [deleted]
| danieldk wrote:
| Maybe I am old-school, but I still prefer (perhaps outside
| tourist use) a Garmin GPS handheld, especially for cycling,
| hiking, and geocaching.
|
| Benefits: (1) battery life for 15-25 hours with the screen on
| (for popular models such as the gpsmap or eTrex); (2) If the
| battery dies, I can just replace them (2 AA NiMH rechargeable
| batteries); (3) they are robust, dropped mine various times
| without any issues; (4) the models with a quad-helix antenna are
| usually more accurate, especially if you are not near a lot of
| WiFi AP or cell towers for triangulation; (5) since they have
| buttons, you can easily operate them with gloves on in the
| winter.
|
| Of course, as with camera's, the best GPS is the one with you,
| which is typically a smartphone.
| yosito wrote:
| I've been using OsmAnd primarily for a few months. Some areas
| that it's fallen short, and forced me back to Google: unreliable
| and slow public transport directions, terrible default routing
| engine (solvable), lack of up to date local business information,
| search that can't find basic street addresses, no updates on road
| closures.
|
| Organic Maps looks great, I'm going to give it a try and see if
| it solves any of these issues.
| Mediterraneo10 wrote:
| If you can't find certain business information or addresses in
| OSMAnd, that means it is missing from the OpenStreetMap
| database, so it isn't going to be in Organic Maps either.
| Apanatshka wrote:
| There's an app called StreetComplete (recently discussed on HN)
| that allows you to easily contribute missing information like
| local business information to OSM. If you can find the time,
| you can use that to solve some of the issues you have and help
| others at the same time! :)
| matkoniecz wrote:
| StreetComplete thread:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27549300
|
| repository: https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete
| moepstar wrote:
| Installed it and tried some bike route to a nearby place...
|
| It wanted to route me via the normal roads (admittedly low-
| traffic ones, but still...)...
|
| There seems to be no option for a "scenic route" or even a
| different one from the single, proposed one?
| tasuki wrote:
| For finding cycle paths and quiet roads, I can highly recommend
| https://cycle.travel/map - it doesn't find "scenic" routes yet,
| but I think the author has been planning to add that :)
| ehnto wrote:
| You might try TrailForks instead for biking and scenery. But I
| haven't seen a map software that does specifically curated
| scenic routes automatically, that sounds like a pretty hard
| problem to be honest. How would the map know what is scenic and
| what isn't?
|
| For those kind of routes I still rely on random blogs or known
| good directories.
| htamas wrote:
| For me, switching to bike route mode froze my phone. Not going
| to use this I guess.
| llampx wrote:
| I use mapy.cz for my offline maps, also based on OpenStreetMaps
| data. What does this do better than mapy?
| npteljes wrote:
| Open source, available from F-Droid, has no trackers.
| chewz wrote:
| +1 for mapy.cz from non-Czech user (both Androind and iOS)...
|
| Great app, great maps (topographic maps more detailed in the
| forrest then Google), good route planning..
| [deleted]
| RivieraKid wrote:
| Are you from the Czech Republic? If not, what's your experience
| with the app?
| tasuki wrote:
| I'm from the Czech Republic, but I live elsewhere and use
| Mapy.cz everywhere - in particular the "outdoor" version,
| which shows the contour lines, colours hiking trails, and
| contains a lot of interesting detail from OSM.
|
| There are two things for which I still use Google Maps -
| finding businesses and getting car directions.
| greyman wrote:
| I am from Slovakia and also use mapy.cz. I think the main
| thing lacking is that in this app there aren't official
| hiking trails marked... maybe that's something specific to
| only Czech+Slovakia, but when going hiking, that is probably
| the first feature I look for.
| sorenjan wrote:
| That's strange. I don't use their app myself, but their
| Outdoor map style on their website is probably my favorite
| OSM map style. They even render hiking trails with the
| correct color from OSM data, which is unusual.
|
| Take this area for example, it's full of what looks like
| hiking and biking trails, is it not? If there are trails
| missing, are they tagged correctly in OSM?
|
| https://en.mapy.cz/turisticka?x=20.4205418&y=48.9352520&z=1
| 4...
| greyman wrote:
| Sorry I meant they are not in OrganicMaps app the article
| talks about.
| mark_l_watson wrote:
| I will try this when it is out of beta TestFlight mode. Not
| having GPS connected sounds good, but I think that our cell
| carriers are already selling our location data to anyone who pays
| for it.
|
| I have location turned off on all Google apps (and really, except
| for the Google app that feeds me interesting stories/news to
| read, I only use paid for services like GCP).
|
| Both my wife and I have switched to Apple Maps. I wish that Apple
| provided privacy cellphone service. Right now, Apple, ProtonMail,
| and a few other options are my best bet for maintaining a little
| bit of privacy. I don't so much care about the government having
| my data, but I hate large corporations having it.
| lorenzhs wrote:
| It's on the App store right now:
| https://apps.apple.com/app/organic-maps/id1567437057 - the beta
| program is for testing new versions
| mark_l_watson wrote:
| thanks! I missed that.
| njacobs5074 wrote:
| I found the walking routes to be sub-optimal compared to Windy
| Maps[1] but that might be related to my location - South Africa.
|
| [1]https://apps.apple.com/us/app/windy-maps/id1201228182
| omniglottal wrote:
| Seems great in concept, but has same issue as others: only the
| world map downloads, but no local map downloads on a device that
| doesn't run Google Play Services and with a non-default download
| manager.
| blendergeek wrote:
| Please file an issue on Github [0]. The developers can't keep
| track of every comment on Hacker News in order to find problems
| that need to be fixed. This fork was just launched and does
| still have some maturing to do.
|
| [0] https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/issues
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