[HN Gopher] Urine test can detect brain tumors with 100% accuracy
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Urine test can detect brain tumors with 100% accuracy
Author : giantg2
Score : 38 points
Date : 2021-06-18 19:38 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| giantg2 wrote:
| I found this interesting. My wife was recently diagnosed (via
| another method).
| MattGaiser wrote:
| How is it that we don't have a toilet unit test runner of sorts
| yet?
|
| Why can't I pee and have my pee tested every time I use my
| toilet?
| dragonwriter wrote:
| That's more of an acceptance test than a unit test.
|
| Also, https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2020/04/smart-
| toilet-...
| antipaul wrote:
| I dunno, N=66 training and N=34 for validation along with Lasso
| regression suggests the performance measures are dramatically
| overfit
|
| See figure 3 etc:
| https://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/acsami.1c01754
| et2o wrote:
| This is nearly certain to be oversold. The etiology and
| composition of brain tumors is highly diverse; they don't all
| share the same biology and the study design here (100 "CNS
| tumors" vs. "normal" individuals) leaves a lot to be desired.
| It's not clear to me if they also are basically using the same
| testing and training dataset or not.
|
| Even the headline here (100% accuracy) is inaccurate; it had 100%
| sensitivity). The list of cancer bio markers which have turned
| out not to work for screening is quite extensive.
|
| That said, the most interesting thing here is the microRNA
| capture technology. If it can be scaled, it might be interesting.
| EMM_386 wrote:
| > If it can be scaled, it might be interesting.
|
| The article seems to indicate it can.
|
| "It can be sterilized, produced on massive scales and completed
| by patients any time anywhere with "minimal effort," according
| to the study published recently in the journal ACS Applied
| Materials & Interfaces."
| gus_massa wrote:
| Also:
|
| > _A urine test developed by researchers at the Nagoya
| University in Japan can pinpoint a person who has a brain tumor
| -- regardless of its size or malignancy -- with 100% accuracy,
| according to a new study._
|
| They used samples of pee of people that were diagnosed with CNS
| tumors with other methods, so my guess is that they had already
| big enough tumors to cause problems, so " _regardless of its
| size or malignancy_ " is probably too optimistic.
| jollybean wrote:
| Your toilet will become your doctor in the next 20 years. It will
| be able to tell more about you than Google or your Doctor. It
| will become the source of 'early prediction' of everything.
|
| Sounds kinda funny but I'm not joking.
| doggodaddo78 wrote:
| Exactly what I was thinking. Cancers, metabolic & endocrine
| disorders, GI microbiome, pregnancy testing, STI testing, and
| so forth. I don't know how test consumables would be made with
| longevity, but there's likely clever approaches to make it
| work.
|
| Surreptitious drug testing the kids too.
|
| Just be worried about holographic ads suggesting baby carriages
| or suppositories.
| tmabraham wrote:
| A recent paper on this:
| https://www.nature.com/articles/s41551-020-0534-9
| gruez wrote:
| Reminds me of a skit from adultswim:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJklHwoYgBQ
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