[HN Gopher] LinearMouse - A minimal app to get rid of scrolling ...
___________________________________________________________________
LinearMouse - A minimal app to get rid of scrolling acceleration on
macOS
Author : lujjjh
Score : 35 points
Date : 2021-06-12 15:16 UTC (7 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (linearmouse.lujjjh.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (linearmouse.lujjjh.com)
| burlesona wrote:
| Interesting. I like scrolling acceleration and miss it when using
| other platforms. I agree it should be a system setting, though.
| Silly that we need apps for this and for having the mouse and
| trackpad scrolling to be different.
| Jare wrote:
| I have to try this. I already have a reverser (how on earth is
| this not the default, and not even an OS option to begin with?!?)
| but scrolling with the wheel on a usb mouse jumps randomly.
| Crossing fingers this may help there.
| joshstrange wrote:
| For smoother scrolling with a non-Apple mouse/trackpad you
| might want to look at Smooze [0], it's what I use for my
| logitech mouse. That said, it's paid and it looks like Moz [1]
| claims to fix smooth scrolling so maybe check that out too.
|
| [0] https://smooze.co/
|
| [1] https://github.com/Caldis/Mos
| jagger27 wrote:
| You have always been able to reverse the scroll direction in
| the Mouse/Trackpad options. It's a checkbox that says "Scroll
| direction: Natural".
|
| As for your jumping issue that sounds like a hardware problem.
| It might just be that your mouse wheel is dirty.
| Jare wrote:
| You can reverse on both or neither, but not for just one.
| That's why there's 3rd party software like this one.
|
| Scroll jumping should be a hardware issue but I've swapped
| mice and same issue; both also work fine on windows. It could
| be the USB hub, I've still to try something with that, but it
| sounds... unlikely.
| throwawayboise wrote:
| It's struck me as peculiar but with a trackpad or a mouse the
| "drag down to move screen content up" feels natural, but on a
| touch-screen, phone, or tablet it's the opposite. So on a Mac
| I always have to change the default trackpad preference.
| deagle50 wrote:
| This is great. Scroll Reverser + scroll acceleration fix in one
| app. If you can also figure out cursor acceleration, you'll have
| a hit. The only app that correctly disables cursor acceleration
| is SteelSeries ExactMouse.
| Twixes wrote:
| +1, ExactMouse is a must for me as a macOS non-Magic mouse
| user. Would love for this tool to replace SteelSeries's app
| too.
| jtth wrote:
| SteerMouse does this just fine, and has for years and years. I
| can't use a Mac without it.
| deagle50 wrote:
| I tried SteerMouse in the past and it didn't feel right.
| ExactMouse feels like Windows.
| rosstex wrote:
| Explain this?
| deagle50 wrote:
| Which part?
| rosstex wrote:
| Oh sorry, I misread this! Nevermind.
| akhuchdy wrote:
| +1, I've also been using the paid Mac app Smooze (smooze.co) to
| get smooth mousewheel scrolling animation like I get on Linux
| and Windows out-of-the-box when web browsing and so forth
| because I haven't found a free app that can do this.
|
| And while we're talking about the effort needed to get sane
| mouse behavior for serious CAD/3D editing/art/gaming, it is way
| too hard to reliably disable cursor acceleration on Linux.
| There are at least three different X11 mouse drivers on Ubuntu:
| the really old one, the evdev one, and the newest libinput one.
| (I don't even know what you have to do for Wayland... never got
| there....) So if you web search "disable mouse accel linux" you
| likely get the wrong directions (at least I did) because you
| might be using the libinput driver and the instructions you
| found are for evdev. One unreliable method I tried involves
| setting a matrix. This at first works and then you eventually
| discover some apps like Blender develop cursor jump bugs....
|
| So the reliable method is....
|
| If using libinput mouse driver you do something like this:
|
| $ xinput --set-prop 'Cooler Master Technology Inc. MM710 Gaming
| Mouse' 'libinput Accel Profile Enabled' 0, 1
|
| If using evdev mouse driver you do something like this:
|
| $ xinput --set-prop 'pointer:Cooler Master Technology Inc.
| MM710 Gaming Mouse' 'Device Accel Profile' -1
|
| To figure out your mouse name string like the MM710 example I
| used above you do this:
|
| $ xinput --list
|
| The number of tweaks I've needed to research and implement for
| both Mac and Linux are one reason I'm now currently using
| Windows + WSL for getting stuff done. I want to solve computer
| science problems more interesting than configuring my mouse and
| my window manager vsync tearing / compositor issues....
| smoldesu wrote:
| Thankfully, KDE and Gnome have both added easy settings menus
| that allow you to toggle this. Not sure how recently it was
| added, but it sure is a nice addition now that Linux is
| starting to break into the gaming space, where disabling
| mouse acceleration is one of the first things you'll probably
| end up doing.
| sitzkrieg wrote:
| isnt it kind of ridiculous that these apps have to exist because
| usable input isnt high on apple's list? like paying fir window
| snapping is one thing, but non wacky input.. ugh
| [deleted]
| ephimetheus wrote:
| You mean you find it ridiculous that you need extra software to
| make macOS input bad?
| delgaudm wrote:
| Rectangle [0] is FOSS and may satisfy your window arranging
| needs.
|
| [0] https://rectangleapp.com/
| smoldesu wrote:
| I think the larger concern is that the world's most valuable
| company can't find the time to fix their window manager.
| chrisseaton wrote:
| It's not 'broken' just because it's not quite designed as
| you'd like.
| smoldesu wrote:
| Sorry, would "functionally inferior" be a more suitable
| name for it? I've come to expect robust and fully-
| featured WMs from years of using Windows and Linux, it's
| a bit funny to me that Apple has just given up in this
| respect.
| chrisseaton wrote:
| Lack of cruft and fuss _is_ a feature though. And how 's
| it not 'robust'?
| smoldesu wrote:
| Lack of cruft is a feature on Linux boxes, where people
| care about running a lean machine. My Mac is a slow,
| hulking trash box that runs Telegram and slurps bandwidth
| through a swizzle-straw. I frankly don't care about how
| little cruft my WM has when my system idles at 4 gigs of
| memory usage.
|
| Apple needs a few things to make their WM competitive out
| of the box: 4/6 corner tiling would probably be a good
| place to start: split-screen is useless. Hopefully they
| would have an auto-tile functionality like Yabai, Pop
| Shell or i3-gaps, since I've come to expect that on my
| high-res devices too. They should also copy Microsoft's
| FancyZones, which let you quickly draft window presets to
| keep your screen divided the way you like it. Any of
| these would be welcome additions, because currently it
| feels like my Retina display is being put to waste with
| only two or three apps all fighting for attention.
| chrisseaton wrote:
| They clearly don't need this stuff and they clearly are
| competitive already, given their market share with
| developers. I'd hate to see Apple cram in all these wacky
| features you're describing - I much prefer a simpler
| system.
| rustyemu wrote:
| It's not really broken, it's just not meant for power users
| smoldesu wrote:
| Broken might be a bit heavy-handed, but it's not like I'm
| chiding some tiny mom-and-pop store for writing bad
| software. This is Apple, a company that has been
| developing their current operating system for nearly a
| decade. In that time, the closest their window manager
| got to a glow-up was the introduction of split-screen
| tiling. Pretty pathetic if you ask me, which is why I
| have to install Yabai on every godforsaken Mac I own. I'm
| not following them into the ARM transition if they don't
| fix the basics of their OS.
| ribs wrote:
| I've always considered Apple's scrolling acceleration to be among
| its most important features. For, like, 30 years. Since the Mac
| debuted. But I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that someone out
| there wants to disable it.
| fartcannon wrote:
| I like it for some things and not for others.
|
| I like choice.
| jzelinskie wrote:
| I've been using Mos[0] for this. Don't be scared away by the
| language in the README, it supports an English UI.
|
| [0]: https://github.com/Caldis/Mos
| eyelidlessness wrote:
| The website[0] has English copy. Unfortunately on mobile the
| screenshots are cropped in a way I still can't tell what it
| does
|
| 0: https://mos.caldis.me/
| Shank wrote:
| Do you know how this compares to the aforementioned SteelSeries
| ExactMouse Tool?
| toomanyducks wrote:
| So it takes a dedicated app to adjust mouse acceleration curves?
| Is this an accurate reflection of the platform as a whole?
| chrisseaton wrote:
| It is in general to be used as designed rather than configured,
| yes. I don't think I change any configuration options at all in
| macOS for example - not even the wallpaper.
| smoldesu wrote:
| This is one of the reasons I ended up using Linux, it's nice to
| see that current Mac users don't have to suffer with the asinine
| mouse controls anymore.
| oneplane wrote:
| I don't get all the mouse hate. It works fine for me yet I'm
| not calling other's mouse preferences asinine.
| smoldesu wrote:
| I wouldn't be mad if it was a matter of preference, but Apple
| doesn't give you the choice to disable acceleration. Across
| every device I've ever used (even Android phones), I've
| always been able to disable mouse acceleration. For most
| people who aren't using a trackpad, it feels imprecise and
| terrible, and it absolutely doesn't make sense in the age of
| the modern optical mouse.
|
| I'm just tired of Apple refusing to add settings for the most
| basic options. I want to use MacOS, but Apple keeps removing
| features that I use religiously and refusing to extend their
| desktop in ways that compete with the rest of the market. Is
| it too much to ask them to spend some of their 2 trillion
| dollar valuation on adding a mouse menu?
| oneplane wrote:
| I use a mouse too. I've also started using trackpads more,
| but for the last 20 years it's been mice in various
| incarnations (currently a razor deathadder elite), no
| problems so far. Had a steelseries before that, and a
| roccat before that, Logitech before that.
|
| I suppose the difference is the religious use of a specific
| configuration. I usually use the same mouse (buy them 2 or
| 3 at a time) on Linux (Gnome 3 mostly) and Windows. No
| problems there either. All on mostly default settings,
| perhaps a little faster tracking speed but that's about it.
| chrisseaton wrote:
| > For most people who aren't using a trackpad, it feels
| imprecise and terrible
|
| Are you sure it's for most people? Or just you and some
| people you know?
| akhuchdy wrote:
| > This is one of the reasons I ended up using Linux
|
| This is one of the reasons I ended up ditching Linux for
| Windows+WSL.
|
| Disabling mouse cursor acceleration under X11, for example,
| depends on which of at least three different X.org mouse
| drivers you are using (really old, evdev, or libinput). And web
| searches often turn up an unreliable or incorrect method.
| (Search this article's comments for "xinput" to find more info
| I just typed up for another reply.)
|
| And if you use a Logitech unifying receiver you need to
| research that the program you need is 'solaar' to pair/unpair
| your mouse under Linux.
|
| And if your bluetooth mouse or keyboard goes to sleep too fast
| under Linux (5 seconds in my case) you might need to add this
| to your grub boot params (worked for me):
|
| $ sudo vi /etc/default/grub
|
| # Add btusb.enable_autosuspend=n to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
|
| GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="btusb.enable_autosuspend=n"
|
| Then:
|
| $ sudo update-grub
|
| The point is, researching all this hardware config stuff is
| time I could have been using to research more interesting
| computer science problems. I sure can get my printer working
| much faster under Windows than Linux....
| smoldesu wrote:
| Gnome and KDE offer options to fix this out of the box, and
| while that's not a tacit approval of installing full-fat DEs
| on every system, I think the average user won't have to worry
| about this unless they're using a bare-bones WM on a stripped
| down compositor, at which point I'd argue their already well-
| versed enough in Linux-fu to know how to fix it.
|
| That said though, I get it. I think the pervasive myth of
| "the year of the Linux desktop" riles people up into
| believing that Linux has finally "Windows-ified" itself,
| which it hasn't.
| speedgoose wrote:
| Since the discussion is about making MacOS more usable, do you
| have something to recommend to switch between windows and not
| applications using command+tab, and to have a dock that shows all
| the windows easily, grouped per application. Because the default
| MacOS windows manager is really crappy when you have more than
| one window of the same application.
|
| I would also enjoy a maximize button that does maximize the
| window and not create a virtual space with the application in
| full-screen.
|
| I think people at Apple should probably use windows 10 for a few
| days on a dual screen setup, because MacOS is not very good
| compared to it. Thankfully it looks like a lot of people produce
| tools to make it better.
| jmole wrote:
| Command ` (or Command ~) switches between app windows.
|
| You can also use expose, recently renamed to mission control to
| view all app windows.
|
| It looks like the default key binding for application windows
| is Control-| and for all windows is Control-|
|
| edit: you can also bind these to mouse buttons in system
| preferences.
| speedgoose wrote:
| Thanks. I should try to rebind the shortcuts to make mission
| control a bit more convenient to use. I have it in a hot
| corner, but this is useless on dual screen. Maybe a button on
| the mouse will be better.
| TooKool4This wrote:
| > I would also enjoy a maximize button that does maximize the
| window and not create a virtual space with the application in
| full-screen.
|
| This was the biggest thing that annoyed me when switching from
| Windows. I've been using SizeUp for 5 years now without any
| problem and it's great, especially when using a 4K screen
| (quarter screen window tiles).
|
| https://www.irradiatedsoftware.com/sizeup/
| joombaga wrote:
| Contexts is a good cmd+tab replacement/supplement. You can try
| it for free.
|
| https://contexts.co/
|
| Hold option while clicking maximize and the window will do what
| you want.
| speedgoose wrote:
| Thanks! Contexts looks like an improvement. It's still
| missing the window previews though.
|
| I had mixed results with the option key pressed while
| clicking maximize, some apps such as safari gets slightly
| bigger by a random amount that is probably a failed tentative
| to guess the optimal size.
| brumm wrote:
| https://manytricks.com/witch/ may be exactly what you're
| looking for
| speedgoose wrote:
| Thanks. I will try this one too.
| Angostura wrote:
| > ince the discussion is about making MacOS more usable, do you
| have something to recommend to switch between windows and not
| applications
|
| Command + ` does that.
|
| > and to have a dock that shows all the windows easily, grouped
| per application.
|
| Does Expose not work for you? F3 by default, I think?
|
| > I would also enjoy a maximize button that does maximize the
| window and not create a virtual space with the application in
| full-screen.
|
| You might want to try opt-clicking the window maximise button.
| This maximise window size, in context of the content. May not
| always be full screen, but as big as the content needs.
| speedgoose wrote:
| Isn't command + ` switching between windows of the same
| application?
|
| Expose is not the same no.
|
| The option click algorithm that decide how big the window
| should be hasn't impressed me to say the least.
| fatboy wrote:
| I agree the window maximising is frustrating in macOS. I
| use what used to be Spectacle and is now Rectangle to bind
| a "real" fullscreeen commmand to a key combo.
|
| The way the default behaviour creates a new space makes me
| think that no one in Cupertino uses a second monitor
| because that behaviour simply does not work if you do.
___________________________________________________________________
(page generated 2021-06-12 23:01 UTC)