[HN Gopher] The Teaching of Arithmetic I: The Story of an experi...
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       The Teaching of Arithmetic I: The Story of an experiment (1935)
        
       Author : barry-cotter
       Score  : 32 points
       Date   : 2021-06-10 07:58 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | WalterGR wrote:
       | (1935)
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       | Actual title: The Teaching of Arithmetic I: The Story of an
       | experiment
        
       | mtdewcmu wrote:
       | What's the TL;DR of this? I finished part 1 and and I lost faith
       | that this was heading toward any conclusion.
        
       | andai wrote:
       | I really like the writing style used here. Nobody writes like
       | that anymore, although it was considered normal for centuries.
       | What happened to make it go away, and when?
        
         | lisper wrote:
         | Twitter. 2007. Wrtng hz nvr bn the sm snc.
        
       | barry-cotter wrote:
       | > In the fall of 1929 I made up my mind to try the experiment of
       | abandoning all formal instruction in arithmetic below the seventh
       | grade and concentrating on teaching the children to read, to
       | reason, and to recite - my new Three R's.
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       | > I was so delighted with the success of the experiment so far
       | that in the fall of 1930 we started six or seven other rooms
       | along the same line. The formal arithmetic was dropped and
       | emphasis was placed on English expression, on reasoning, and
       | estimating of distances.
       | 
       | > In other words these children, by avoiding the early drill on
       | combinations, tables, and that sort of thing, had been able, in
       | one year, to attain the level of accomplishment which the
       | traditionally taught children had reached after three and one-
       | half years of arithmetical drill
        
         | andi999 wrote:
         | It might just be that older children learn faster. And same
         | results might happen in any subject. Here they started to teach
         | a foreign language from grade 1. After 4 years kids usually
         | reach the same level the would have had end of grade 5 when
         | instruction started at beginning of grade 5.
        
       | Raidion wrote:
       | I did fairly well in maths, and I still resonated with this. It
       | wasn't until I was deep into university that I realized that
       | higher level maths were a game of sorts. I enjoyed it to a point,
       | but found myself asking "what's the point?". Calculus was an
       | exception because it really does start with "how do we find an
       | area under a curve" and ties in closely with the physics concepts
       | of finding velocity/acceleration/jerk.
       | 
       | I think bringing interesting problems to students and enabling
       | them to think about those problems naturally before introducing
       | abstract concepts is always the way to go. Teaching
       | inquisitiveness and building confidence that they can solve
       | problems will serve them far better than more multiplication
       | memorization.
        
       | kwhitefoot wrote:
       | It's a pity that primary education isn't done this way now. As
       | far as I can tell it is worse than ever with children being
       | regularly tested but never taught how to think.
        
         | lkbm wrote:
         | It's not quite the same, but there've been several efforts in
         | the US to shift math education away from "memorize this
         | algorithm for addition, this one for multiplication, etc." and
         | instead get kids to understand our number system.
         | 
         | New Math was ridiculed for it[0], and now Common Core[1]. "Why
         | are you teaching kids these inefficient ways of multiplying
         | instead of memorizing the standard algorithm?"
         | 
         | Despite it being the focus of Tom Leher's song, my go-to test
         | for "Do you understand our number system?" _is_ "Can you work
         | out a multiplication problem in base 8?"
         | 
         | If you understand the concept of digits, you can solve
         | multiplication in other bases, and likely have solid grasp on
         | how our number system work. From there, you'll understand both
         | the standard arithmetic algorithms and will be able to figure
         | out your own shortcuts. If you lack this understanding, you're
         | likely stuck just mindlessly using the algorithm you were
         | taught.
         | 
         | (One other thing I'd also like for us to add is Fermi problems.
         | Physics students learn to estimate everything from the mass of
         | the earth to the number of dogs in their city. Seems like
         | something everyone would benefit from practicing and that kids
         | would really enjoy.)
         | 
         | [0] Tom Leher has a famous and delightful song about it:
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIKGV2cTgqA
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         | [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBkQAxt1JXA (This is more a
         | defense of Common Core, but in response to the common
         | complaint.)
        
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