[HN Gopher] Workspacer: A tiling window manager for Windows 10
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Workspacer: A tiling window manager for Windows 10
Author : lnyan
Score : 61 points
Date : 2021-06-06 08:24 UTC (1 days ago)
(HTM) web link (workspacer.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (workspacer.org)
| nickjj wrote:
| From the screenshots it looks like it fully replaces the default
| Windows shell, or are you running it as a full screen app with
| the Windows task bar hidden?
|
| Does it support multiple monitors? If so what is the experience
| like?
| somebehemoth wrote:
| I've only just tried this out with 3 monitors so I could be
| doing something wrong. 1 monitor has an i3 style task bar at
| the top showing workspace numbers (one, two, three, ...). It
| works like i3 in that you can navigate those workspaces and
| move windows to them. I still have the win10 task bar at the
| bottom of the screen. I've stopped using this for now because
| although it works with multiple monitors, it is not obvious to
| me how to use the workspace navigation without causing windows
| to go to unintended monitors (in workspace one, I have 2 apps
| on far left monitor, workspace three they get moved to far
| right but are not retiled for that monitor's size.
|
| It could be because I am running a mixture of 4k, 2k, and a
| normal monitor or I am doing something wrong.
| Isthatablackgsd wrote:
| There is another app that I used in the past for my dual
| monitor setup. It called DisplayFusion. However it is a paid
| app but worth it. I brought the software through Steam and it
| is updated regularly.
|
| This app works with combination of monitors with different
| resolutions. I have it not to show the taskbar in my second
| monitor and automatically place those apps in specific
| workplace when i start them up. It works very well.
| dharmaturtle wrote:
| Here's an alternative window manager in AutoHotKey. I consider it
| essential as I use a 4k screen at 100% scale. It's entirely
| keyboard-shortcut driven. NB: it doesn't support multiple
| monitors, though it'll work fine for the primary monitor.
|
| https://autohotkey.com/board/topic/79338-simple-window-posit...
| [deleted]
| gman83 wrote:
| How does it compare to FancyZones that comes with Windows
| PowerToys?
| rcarmo wrote:
| It's not the same thing at all, in the sense that this is very
| much keyboard-driven whereas FancyZones is mouse-driven.
|
| Think of it as XMonad-like, with permanently tiled, auto-
| arranged windows (see https://workspacer.org/screenshots/) and
| able to move/rotate windows using keyboard alone.
|
| I use FancyZones a lot and am currently trying to find a Mac
| analogue - nothing does "drop and place" the same way.
|
| In the meantime, I've switched from Moom to
| https://github.com/kasper/phoenix and implemented XMonad-like
| tiling (Amethyst-like) in a couple of hours:
|
| https://gist.github.com/rcarmo/1daccbe9abbbb5c133b7b48d05cc0...
|
| ...in comparison, I have yet to build a FancyZones equivalent
| since mouse handling requires a completely different logic when
| doing window placement (I have to grab the current window
| frame, figure out if it matches a predefined zone, etc.).
| arnado wrote:
| I used to use magnet on the mac, which does hotkeys, but not
| sure about mouse driven.
|
| https://magnet.crowdcafe.com/
| ziggus wrote:
| FancyZones has keyboard support as well - it overrides the
| default Windows snap keys (Win-Left and Win-Right) if that
| option is selected in the FZ options.
| NoGravitas wrote:
| What I'd really like is something more like i3, sway, or
| stumpwm and ratpoison. All windows get tiled, and
| automatically added to your tiling layout, but the tiling is
| to some extent manual (and everything is keyboard-driven). I
| used bug.n previously, but the XMonad-style auto-tiling is
| generally not what I want when I have more than 3 windows
| open.
|
| I'm currently using FancyZones because it seems like the
| least buggy option, but you really need to manually create
| and manually switch to a layout for every number of windows
| you want visible, and that's not great.
| kinda_username wrote:
| For mac BetterTouchTool is a paid option but allows you to
| define custom snap areas for windows. Have to restart it
| occasionally but it's relatively stable and has made my
| super-ultrawide usable on mac.
| yboris wrote:
| _meta_ : I highly recommend including at least one screenshot on
| the homepage.
| canadianfella wrote:
| "Meta"
|
| How is that meta?
| tupac_speedrap wrote:
| Looks cool, but is there any reason sentences on the website
| don't begin with capital letters? It is a youth thing?
| delecti wrote:
| One sentence begins with "i", despite "I" being capitalized in
| the middle of the prior sentence. It seems to be a deliberate
| stylistic choice, for whatever reason.
| awestroke wrote:
| Maybe some kind of OCD? Same thing with the README and
| description on Github
| cuddlybacon wrote:
| Likely yes.
|
| Gretchen McCulloch has a book called Because Internet which
| talks about how the internet has changed English. People joined
| the internet in different waves. Each group of had the
| challenge of re-inventing writing conventions for the writing
| that falls outside of the relatively formal academic/business
| writing taught in highschool.
|
| For the people were using a cellphone with autocorrect was a
| significant part of their internet usage, uncapitalization
| became a way to indicate casual tone. Since autocorrect would
| capitalize for you, it was clear that the lower case letters
| weren't the result of you being lazy. Instead you were going
| back to deliberately undo the capitalization of the word.
|
| So yes, it is probably a youth thing and it's done to indicate
| a casual tone.
|
| [0] - https://gretchenmcculloch.com/book/
| DougWebb wrote:
| That, and "it suites my needs" makes me reluctant to just
| install and run this software without carefully examining the
| source code first, and maybe building/running from source
| myself.
| xxpor wrote:
| I think it's a youth thing from 10-15 years ago, i.e. people
| who are ~30 now (e.g. me :) )
| [deleted]
| NackerHughes wrote:
| I guess we were optimistic in thinking you all would've grown
| up by now.
| folkrav wrote:
| Such a gratuitously pretentious take.
| sh-run wrote:
| I'm 29 and have never even heard of anyone doing this, but I
| grew in rural Texas so maybe we were just behind the times.
| handrous wrote:
| Oh my god. I thought maybe it was just some "quirky" thing on
| the landing page that the author reckoned they could get away
| with because every piece of copy is only one sentence, but it's
| even like that on other pages on the site that have multiple
| sentences per paragraph (try the "config" link at the top of
| the page).
|
| No. Do not do this.
| ggus wrote:
| why does this stylistic choice triggers such clear-cut
| rejection? the "use capital letters at the beginning of a
| sentence" is a pretty useless rule from the point of view of
| having your reader understand what you write.. the goal of
| the language is completely met by the webpage.
| Mountain_Skies wrote:
| I'm far from an expert on these matters but my
| understanding is that using capital letters to start
| sentences is done because it helps anchor the reader's
| place in the text. When capital letters are excluded, it's
| easier for a person to lose their place while reading.
| There are other ways this could be accomplished such as
| returning to the old custom of using two spaces between
| sentences or making sentence ending punctuation marks
| larger or heavier, but initial capital letters is the one
| English has settled on and is almost universally used.
| handrous wrote:
| I can't tell if this post is serious, or a sarcastic
| demonstration of why omitting capitals at the beginning of
| sentences is a very bad idea if your goal is to communicate
| clearly.
| fleaaa wrote:
| I'm not sure this would be helpful but you can move around the
| window with keyboard win + arrow across multiple monitors with
| Fancyzone too.
|
| Focusing the specific window is different story, though alt-
| tabbing or win + num might helpful for that.
|
| My ergo keyboard layout is getting centered around ctrl and win
| mostly these days.. just saying.
| mszcz wrote:
| I kinda always wanted to try a tiling window manager but, since I
| mainly work on Windows I've grown used to AltDrag, GridMove and,
| recently, FancyZones@PowerToys.
|
| Any reasons a tiling window manager is superior to using keyboard
| shortcuts to move windows around predefined spaces and
| draging/resizing them by alt+lmb/rmb anywhere on the window?
| bsnnkv wrote:
| As someone who migrated to Windows 10 from macOS, I was very
| frustrated that I couldn't find a tiling window manager that was
| intuitive for me as a former user of yabai and bspwm, so I
| decided to make my own: https://github.com/LGUG2Z/yatta (there is
| a full animated demo embedded in the readme)
|
| Workspacer was one of the TWMs for W10 that I tried, but
| ultimately I became very frustrated with the configuration story
| because of the tight coupling between the TWM and keyboard
| shortcut configuration.
|
| yatta follows the sockets model of bspwm and yabai, which means
| that all config can be managed through AutoHotKey (or any other
| hotkey daemon of your choice) instead of trying to reinvent the
| wheel, and makes the TWM experience as scriptable as bspwm and
| yabai without increasing the complexity of the TWM codebase
| itself.
|
| I've been using this full time for a number of months now, and
| for anyone used to bspwm or yabai, I would say that it mostly
| "just works" (it comes with a batteries-included AHK config
| example) and has a few nice extra features like being able to
| resize everything by dragging window edges and dragging/dropping
| windows to switch their positions in the layout tree.
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