[HN Gopher] Tips from an Avid Cicadas Eater
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       Tips from an Avid Cicadas Eater
        
       Author : giuliomagnifico
       Score  : 16 points
       Date   : 2021-06-06 17:49 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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       | hn8788 wrote:
       | My wife's friend has seen a few people eating raw cicadas this
       | year. She said they just walk down the road in her neighborhood
       | picking and eating them like they're wild blueberries.
        
         | m3kw9 wrote:
         | Good for her.
        
       | indy wrote:
       | http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html
       | 
       | This story surfaces every few years.
       | 
       | "Eat bugs, they're good for you"
       | 
       | "Eat bugs, they're high in protein"
       | 
       | "Eat bugs, look, this high status person with a PhD eats them."
       | 
       | Please ignore this story and don't eat the bugs
        
         | oxfordmale wrote:
         | I ordered some edible snack bugs from Amazon, but they are
         | still very pricey compared to a bag of nuts. I wouldn't mind
         | eating more of them, however, it is not cost effective quite
         | yet.
        
         | godelski wrote:
         | > Please ignore this story and don't eat the bugs
         | 
         | I mean what I learn from the above is that bugs won't kill you
         | if eaten. So why not eat bugs? (We can also ask why eat bugs)
         | Are they actually bad for you?
        
           | ethanbond wrote:
           | Cultural norms primarily
        
           | zdragnar wrote:
           | Surprise allergies to them are unpleasant (don't eat cicadas
           | if you have a shellfish allergy).
        
         | amelius wrote:
         | Too late: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-43786055
         | 
         | Food colorant E120 is crushed insects.
        
           | rowanG077 wrote:
           | That is as close to eating an insect as eating peanut butter
           | is to eating rats.
        
         | luc4sdreyer wrote:
         | You're saying this is a PR piece? The story didn't claim that
         | there are any benefits to eating Cicadas, and hardly made a
         | case that they taste wonderful.
         | 
         | If this is a PR piece, who's standing to gain from it? Your
         | comment seems overly cynical.
        
         | foobiter wrote:
         | your link isn't even a good comparison, suits are a fading
         | anachronism... bugs are a slow drag attempting to normalize a
         | valid food source
         | 
         | the biggest reason i don't eat more cricket flour is that
         | production hasn't grown enough to bring prices down
        
         | ewired wrote:
         | Free edible insects in the wellness chamber on Aisle X! Get 'em
         | while they're hot!
        
         | pmoriarty wrote:
         | _" Please ignore this story and don't eat the bugs"_
         | 
         | How much of a difference is there really between terrestrial
         | insects and enormously popular underwater insects like shrimp,
         | crabs, and lobsters?
        
         | rajacombinator wrote:
         | One of the great questions of the 2020s is - why are they
         | pushing the bugs? Cui bono?
        
           | ethanbond wrote:
           | Because we are trending toward too many people and not enough
           | protein. Not a ton of mystery there.
        
             | X6S1x6Okd1st wrote:
             | Why do you believe that we are running low on protein? Meat
             | maybe, but I'm under the impression that plant based
             | protein is plenty sufficient.
        
       | slumdev wrote:
       | Having eaten some bugs myself, I can tell you that they are
       | disgusting even when properly cooked and seasoned.
       | 
       | The legs and exoskeleton are very, very hard, but not quite
       | crunchy either. Like chewing on a number of small plastic
       | toothpicks.
       | 
       | This is a fad that will not replace meat.
        
         | tomjen3 wrote:
         | Having eaten fried meal worm a couple of times, I can only say
         | that it is actually really good.
         | 
         | If people don't like the exoskeleton then it may be like
         | lobstor: people don't eat that part and it gets processed
         | differently (just like people don't eat chicken bones, which
         | gets processed into food we do eat). I honestly don't see that
         | as an issue.
         | 
         | The issue is that it will be in addition to meat, not instead
         | of meat. Meat is tasty and the government that makes it too
         | expensive in a misguided attempt to save the environment (can't
         | be done, we will have to live with global warming or begin the
         | geoengineering stuff yesterday) will just become unpopular with
         | the population.
         | 
         | The other issue is that I can serve beef, chicken etc to
         | guests. I can buy some bugs as a curiosity snack and have them
         | in the kitchen, I can't serve them as any part of the meal,
         | without it being looked down on.
        
         | voisin wrote:
         | What about grinding them into a flour, which I understand is
         | super high in protein and delicious but admittedly never had an
         | opportunity to try myself.
        
           | jaggs wrote:
           | I have eaten insect flour chocolate brownies in a restaurant.
           | They taste similar to a regular brownie, but are a little
           | more gritty. If that slightly unpleasant texture could be
           | removed, and the base ingredient given a more palatable name
           | - eg sky chicken - then the flour could definitely take off
           | as a food staple IMHO.
        
           | slumdev wrote:
           | If you ground them up, that would solve the texture problem.
           | The only drawback would be the accumulation of herbicides,
           | metals, and radionuclides in their flesh. Highly appetizing.
        
       | grawprog wrote:
       | I remember trying some salt and vinegar flavoured fried crickets
       | years ago. I was disappointed in their lack of vinegar flavour.
       | It's hard to find a good salt and vinegar flavoured thing that
       | actually tastes like vinegar.
       | 
       | The crickets themselves, they were just like eating any other
       | fried crispy thing. They were also overpriced and rather
       | insubstantial compared to other similar fried crispy snacks.
        
       | briefcomment wrote:
       | Cicadas bio-accumulate mercury [1]
       | 
       | [1]https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/05/040531214618.h..
       | .
        
         | JoeyBananas wrote:
         | > The higher levels, he said, approach those in fish that have
         | earned government warnings.
         | 
         | So they're probably not any worse than fish
        
           | wavefunction wrote:
           | Yeah, probably not any worse than fish (well, specific
           | varieties of fish that have been found to have deleterious
           | levels of mercury and received cautions against consumption).
        
         | amelius wrote:
         | In one specific organ?
        
         | giuliomagnifico wrote:
         | Uhm thanks, I didn't know this, that's not a good news (from
         | 2004, hope other researchers have been made) but also a lot of
         | other foods accumulate mercury (fishes for example).
        
       | saul_goodman wrote:
       | I suspect we'll be getting cockroach burger articles more
       | frequently, the WEF has been pushing this for a bit now:
       | https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/07/good-grub-why-we-migh...
       | 
       | Don't get me wrong, once we can grow real steaks in a petri dish
       | I'm all in. Until then, I'm too old for this $!@#.
       | 
       | And we're actually closer to being able to grow steaks than some
       | folks realize. The problem right now is obviously a bunch of
       | muscle cells in a dish is not a steak, you need them forming
       | organs. Badow: https://youtu.be/L43-XE1uwWc?t=2561
        
         | at_a_remove wrote:
         | Ah, the World Economic Forum, of the now-deleted Tweet about
         | how you will own nothing and you will be happy. Little early on
         | the dystopia there, guys, try waiting a bit more.
        
           | ethanbond wrote:
           | Ah yes what an insane idea to consider in a world where
           | people happily pay for monthly access to books, movies,
           | apartments, transportation, and so on.
           | 
           | Food is actually the one thing that jumps out to me as
           | "definitely purchased" which makes sense given the necessary
           | consumption pattern.
        
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