[HN Gopher] Distributed Cloud Builds for Everyone
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       Distributed Cloud Builds for Everyone
        
       Author : nsm
       Score  : 40 points
       Date   : 2021-06-03 18:57 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | the_arun wrote:
       | Is Llama a typo for Lambda? OR is there a service which uses
       | Lambda for doing remote builds? Sorry, unable to figure it.
        
         | banana_giraffe wrote:
         | llama is the project being discussed, a platform for pushing
         | work to the cloud, using Lambda to do the work.
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         | https://github.com/nelhage/llama
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         | My question is how much upload bandwidth this needs. The
         | article linked here mentions it in passing, but that's always
         | been the pain point for things like this for me.
        
           | hathawsh wrote:
           | From what I can tell, Llama uploaded 1.8 GB. An Internet
           | connection that can upload 10 megabits per second, sustained,
           | should be able to complete that in a half hour. If that's too
           | long, it might make sense to run Llama from a small EC2 VM,
           | eliminating any concerns about bandwidth.
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           | IMHO Llama looks so good that it makes me wonder if AWS is
           | undercharging to attract developers.
        
         | wgjordan wrote:
         | > Is Llama a typo for Lambda? OR is there a service which uses
         | Lambda for doing remote builds? Sorry, unable to figure it.
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         | "Recently, I blogged about building LLVM in 90 seconds [1]
         | using AWS Lambda and my Llama project."
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         | [1] https://blog.nelhage.com/post/building-llvm-in-90s/
        
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       | johnklos wrote:
       | I think there's a bit of oversimplification going on. Sure, free,
       | or almost free, stuff is available everywhere. But at what cost?
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       | How much work do we have to do to get this "free" thing? What
       | privacy do we give up? What if we're working on something that's
       | part of a product, or otherwise proprietary?
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       | The idea that everyone is doing it, so we should stop being
       | sticks in the mud and just jump on the bandwagon, is harmful and
       | ignorant.
       | 
       | "My data has never been stolen from the cloud" is about as
       | ridiculous as the fortune quote, "As far as we know, our computer
       | has never had an undetected error." How would you know until it's
       | way too late?
       | 
       | Or, even better, you find out the data you've used in the cloud
       | has been leaked on the Internet. Was it AWS? Was it crappy
       | software on your laptop? Or was it a breach on your network?
       | You've just made finding out that much harder, particularly
       | because the cloud doesn't have logs that you can audit, nor real,
       | understanding humans with whom you can correspond.
       | 
       | People who don't understand security can't really be faulted for
       | eschewing the idea of using the cloud for everything, but people
       | who know better really shouldn't be pushing these unhealthy
       | ideas.
        
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