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Show HN: Mani - Place virtual sticky notes in real-world spaces
Author : narenkeshav
Score : 70 points
Date : 2021-06-02 07:01 UTC (1 days ago)
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| flakiness wrote:
| A decade ago, there was a similar product called "Sekai Camera"
| [1]. In Japan it was heavily hyped and then spectacularly failed.
| Maybe it was too early. Maybe the implementation was bad. Or the
| idea isn't as great as it appears. We'll see. [1]
| https://wsa-global.org/winner/sekai-camera/ [2]
| https://thebridge.jp/en/2013/12/sekai-camera-closes
| janikvonrotz wrote:
| Had a similar idea years ago, but thought more of a gps-located
| twitter. A tweets sticks to a location an can be private or
| public. People who use the app may have access to special deals.
| Monetizing in the sense of coupons. The app would incentivize
| people to explore and find gps-tweets.
| smusamashah wrote:
| Looks amazing. How do you handle the changing environments?
|
| A sticky note placed on a wall with something written on it
| should disappear if it's painted over. How do you handle that?
|
| What about indoors where gps may not work?
| justusthane wrote:
| > should disappear if it's painted over
|
| Why?
| smusamashah wrote:
| It would because it won't recognize that wall anymore. Gps
| can tell the location with limited accuracy. Rest is done by
| recognizing through camera.
| justusthane wrote:
| Oh, I see, sorry. I misunderstood you. I thought you were
| saying that you wouldn't disappear if the wall was painted
| over, but that you would want it to disappear.
| oliv__ wrote:
| Looks like there are a few of us out here, but I had the exact
| same idea years ago as well :)
| purplecats wrote:
| Oh hey, I had this absolute exact idea 10 years ago. I ended up
| pivoting to something else, but I'll watch your development with
| keen interest :)
| handrous wrote:
| Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is one of the use-cases _lots_ of
| people 've thought up for location services + AR, over the last
| decade-plus.
|
| It has the following problems:
|
| 1) A bad chicken/egg critical-mass problem for adoption.
| (Apple, Google, and maybe Facebook are best positioned to
| overcome this, if they built the feature in to their OS or
| apps)
|
| 2) Content moderation.
|
| 3) Even if you treat it as a friends-and-family thing rather
| than a more broadly social experience (which solves #1 and #2
| fairly well) AR on a screened device is approximately 1,000x
| worse to use than on the hypothetical non-dorky and
| practically-useful-battery-life AR glasses that every major
| tech company seems to expect in our nearish future (judging by
| their continued emphasis on AR, despite its being kind-of a
| shit and gimmicky interface outside some niche uses on current
| hardware)
|
| I suspect 2 and 3 are why FB, Google, or Apple haven't taken on
| the challenge in 1, yet. I expect they will if/when 3 gets
| solved, and this kind of real-world commenting/tagging thing
| will be widespread in a hurry.
| spacebear wrote:
| Haha, likewise. I've been walking around for the past year
| thinking about how this should exist. Glad it does now!
| azinman2 wrote:
| This has literally been done tens of not hundreds of times.
| It's probably one of the go-tos for students in any kind of
| art/hci class. I did it myself back in 2007 as a student with
| a partnership with Telefonica and the Catalan government in
| Spain!
| mgkimsal wrote:
| every "hackathon" I went to for years had some try a
| variation of this. and "bill-splitting" apps. but... wtf -
| you're an adult who can afford an apple smart phone. how
| many times are you "splitting a bill" and having to settle
| up with people such that this is such a burden that you'll
| want to use an app for that? that one truly flummoxed me,
| but every hackathon event (pre-covid) I went to had people
| talking about this sort of problem.
| vbsteven wrote:
| I've seen these apps used at almost every company I've
| worked at that orders food delivery once or a few times
| per week.
| lixtra wrote:
| What precisely where they using it for? Beware of the dog
| here?
| vbsteven wrote:
| I was talking about the bill splitting apps that are used
| in situations where the same group of people frequently
| orders food together.
| mypalmike wrote:
| Yeah, I worked with a team in 2001 developing a Palm Pilot
| version of something similar for military use.
| vbsteven wrote:
| I'll add one more comment as a person who once worked on
| something similar to this. It looks like lots of people were
| working on "location based tweeting" around 10 years ago.
|
| It makes sense as around that time Twitter was growing fast and
| location based services like Foursquare and Gowalla were popular.
| As well as Google/Niantic Ingress.
|
| Our iteration was based on the concept of "shouts" that had a
| location and a visibility radius. Reshouts would increase the
| radius further.
| huachimingo wrote:
| Like the Darksouls soapstone inspired app, where people wrote
| messages on the coordinates they were.
| smoldesu wrote:
| Neat idea, it just needs to be less centralized. A lot more
| people (myself included) would be interested if this was a
| federated protocol or API, and not limited just to iPhones. The
| real limiting factor here is going to be how well you can get
| other devices to work with it and developing the extensibility.
| chewmieser wrote:
| Not a bad suggestion but I would suggest that OP focuses on the
| main features rather than something like this. Otherwise you'll
| have a handful of very happy HN'ers while missing out on 95% of
| the market that doesn't care about a federated protocol.
| smoldesu wrote:
| It really depends on what kind of market you want to foster.
| It's nice having the 95%, but sometimes all you need are
| 1,000 True Fans[0].
|
| [0] https://kk.org/thetechnium/1000-true-fans/
| manigandham wrote:
| What's the background for choosing this name?
| tristanb wrote:
| I started a company that did something very similar. Flook.it -
| We had grand ideas of locating all of the worlds geo data into
| what we called a location browser. We were one of the first apps
| on the iPhone. Still think it has legs...
| siavosh wrote:
| Cool to see this space get some more activity. Wasn't this the
| general idea of Color Labs [1] way back like 10 years ago? It was
| a neat social experiment that suffered from over-hype and
| geographical limitations of networking effects.
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| [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_Labs
| jessehattabaugh wrote:
| Twitter lets you search for tweets near any location. It's not an
| exact location because nobody really wants strangers on the
| internet to know their exact location.
| tarr11 wrote:
| Reminds me of Findery
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| https://findery.com/
| numlocked wrote:
| I'd like to use this around my house. We are renting it to some
| friends this summer, and it would be great to stick notes around
| each room, explaining various quirks and where things are. But
| it's a bit weird to "publish" the notes and have my house show up
| on a map. Is there a way to "not publish" my notes publicly, but
| perhaps be able to share them selectively via e.g. a URL or an
| invite in the app?
| numlocked wrote:
| To be clear: I would pay for this app, happily, for that
| functionality.
| ipsum2 wrote:
| Why not use real sticky notes?
| thih9 wrote:
| I guess there are many reasons, e.g. for some people it's
| easier to find their phone than a pen; or lack of sticky
| notes.
| pimlottc wrote:
| It's not a bad idea, but the landing page needs more clear non-
| video illustrations of exactly what the experience looks like.
| The videos are somewhat helpful but they are so jumpy with lots
| of quick cuts that it's hard to get a good look.
| nell wrote:
| Unsolicited idea: Constrain your marketing focus to a university
| town and you got yourself a million dollar idea.
| jarmitage wrote:
| Have you considered linking this to Notion / Roam Research API
| etc?
|
| Higher level concept than standalone 'sticky note' is worth
| exploring. Lots of indigenous cultures were/are based on memory
| techniques based on tying specific pieces of knowledge to exact
| locations: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29759605-the-
| memory-code
| squiggy22 wrote:
| I love this. There's a virtual treasure hunt / digital geocaching
| application in there.
| jjice wrote:
| Absolutely agree! This is a really neat use of AR to me. I'm
| not sure how practical, but can definitely be fun.
| scottrogowski wrote:
| Interesting concept! Personally, I'm not seeing much in terms of
| a practical application here but possibly a recreational one? I'm
| imagining a game of clue where you follow the notes to some sort
| of geocache location.
| hhh wrote:
| This is awesome, I would love to see this as a feature in some
| documentation tools. It should not be the _only_ way to consume
| it, but being able to put notes on a physical device could be
| awesome in some industrial applications.
| kumarvvr wrote:
| If the positioning is precision enough, this could be have great
| applications in many industries.
|
| Imagine having to tap into the work history of a machine and add
| latest repair works and notes for others.
| zardo wrote:
| Pretty stiff competition from attaching a clipboard to the
| machine. Also Siemens, Microsoft, and PTC.
| nynx wrote:
| This is great. As AR starts to take off, I hope an industry
| standard for this gets created.
| johnchristopher wrote:
| I love the idea of juxtaposing real world location and invisible
| data.
|
| There used to be an app that allowed to tag and write things on
| wall. It's of course only visible when you are on the spo.
|
| I am huge believer in the coming of time and location restricted
| layering of data/art/app.
| slig wrote:
| Nice concept! But what's stopping people from being a-holes and
| leaving shitty notes?
| ArekDymalski wrote:
| I'd say the same the same thing that stops (most of people)
| from writing shitty things on the walls (most of ppl don't feel
| the urge to) + usual moderation/flagging.
| spidersouris wrote:
| Would be better with AR glasses :-) but amazing work!
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