[HN Gopher] Was a flying killer robot used in Libya? Quite possibly
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       Was a flying killer robot used in Libya? Quite possibly
        
       Author : homarp
       Score  : 35 points
       Date   : 2021-05-30 19:37 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | mellosouls wrote:
       | Being discussed here also:
       | 
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27333059
        
       | chmod775 wrote:
       | > may actually reduce the risk to civilians because they will
       | make fewer mistakes than human-guided weapons systems
       | 
       | So they will enable waging war in situations where it was
       | previously impossible on humanitarian grounds.
       | 
       | Nice selling point.
       | 
       | Fuck that.
       | 
       | I honestly can't decide which is worse: Weapons so terrible
       | nobody wants to go to war, or weapons so neat that war is the
       | obvious choice.
        
         | thefounder wrote:
         | >> where it was previously impossible on humanitarian grounds.
         | 
         | Unfortunately I don't really think this matters much in war
         | time.
        
       | trhway wrote:
       | an AI drone targeting and killing a person is a view through War
       | on Terror lenses. The Turkey drones have been developed in
       | different context. The TB2 (operator guided) drones were key for
       | Turkey succeeding in Syria, Libya and Azerbaijan - in all these
       | cases they obliterated opposing, Russian backed, forces which
       | were using Russian made air defenses (mostly Pantsir-S1) covering
       | the Russian made armor. Ukraine has already bought these drones
       | and started licensed production of them, and there are talks
       | about further collaborative development of the drones with
       | Turkey.
       | 
       | Now, what can oppose those drones, and in particular by the
       | probable opponents in the region? Manned air fighters, other
       | drones, and jamming. In all those cases to preserve and maintain
       | superiority the drones have to get fully or at least partially
       | autonomous. Note that the Turkey isn't participating in the
       | stealth race even though they could have gotten F-35 if they
       | behaved, and the countries like Azerbaijan and Ukraine for
       | example have no chances of getting stealth, so drones is the
       | [only] way here, and autonomous drones is just the next step in
       | the development of those weapons what their national security
       | will be relying on.
        
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