[HN Gopher] Washington is playing a losing game with China
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Washington is playing a losing game with China
Author : 1cvmask
Score : 25 points
Date : 2021-05-30 15:56 UTC (7 hours ago)
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| nobodyandproud wrote:
| Questionable source:
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| https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/quincy-trit...
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| It tries to paint China as an economic rival, which of course it
| is, but the danger was and still is its political and military
| ambitions.
| mrbadideas wrote:
| I would have thought strong writing skills were a requirement for
| diplomats.
| rkhassen9 wrote:
| I was at a printing trade conference back in the day, there was a
| session titled "how to beat China".
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| We were all tricked as the real topic was "how to offshore to
| China, because anything else is impossible" no doubt the talk was
| sponsored by the Chinese. Of course we can compete.
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| This article leaves me with the same feeling.
| ncann wrote:
| Short of outright banning Chinese products like the US did with
| Huawei I don't see how you can compete with the Chinese when
| they make things faster, cheaper, and with minimal quality
| loss. The last point about quality is even debatable.
| toomuchtodo wrote:
| Tarrifs to compensate for when China uses underpaid labor,
| slave labor, or ignores environmental regulations. Lots of
| way to level the playing field with policy.
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| If you can still make products faster and cheaper while
| adhering to the rules businesses in the developed world have
| to, congrats! You'll succeed.
| throwawaysea wrote:
| I wonder if this article is making this too complicated. It seems
| to argue for a cooperation and relinquishing of economic power as
| a way to retain influence, for example by letting the dollar lose
| its reserve status. That sounds like a disaster, giving up a
| primary advantage the US has in global influence and authority.
| The other primary advantage, military strength, seems like it may
| also diminish if the US doesn't step up
| (https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/2050-chinas-
| militar...).
| akomtu wrote:
| The US should try to export its social justice to China: that's
| the only thing that can delay the inevitable.
| toomuchtodo wrote:
| China is rapidly aging. As long as developed countries "hold
| the line" against China, they'll sputter out before achieving
| superpower status.
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| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aging_of_China
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| https://medium.com/politically-speaking/how-chinas-populatio...
| akomtu wrote:
| CCP is also the kind of government that would send the old
| people to far away farms to grow rice for the "young builders
| of the new society" and China has 1.5 billions people, so it
| can keep doing this for a few generations. Bluntly speaking,
| CCP won't carry the dead weight around.
| toomuchtodo wrote:
| The issue is the fertility rate is permanently stunted.
| Even if they go soylent green on the elderly, they're on a
| downward population trajectory that is likely locked in by
| cultural shifts.
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| Good for the planet and individuals making the choice, bad
| for the CCP.
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| https://www.google.com/search?q=china+fertility+rate
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| https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/10/china-
| birthrat...
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| https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51145251
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| https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3135342/ch
| i...
| akomtu wrote:
| That's a made up problem. CCP can just "spend" a bulk of
| young males in a small war, tell the rest to multiply and
| in 25 years the populace will double.
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