[HN Gopher] Phacility Is Winding Down, Phabricator No Longer Act...
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Phacility Is Winding Down, Phabricator No Longer Actively
Maintained
Author : carwyn
Score : 69 points
Date : 2021-05-29 21:35 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| Aeolun wrote:
| This post about shuttering operations is quite devoid of reasons.
| I can't imagine customers would be happy about that.
| geuis wrote:
| Phabricator is used at some very large companies like Pinterest.
| It's easily the best general purpose tools of its kind I've used.
| I won't be surprised if management gets picked up by someone
| soon.
| smitty1e wrote:
| "Phabricator is a LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) application."
| dmitriid wrote:
| So?
| Dylan16807 wrote:
| So this post has absolutely zero context.
| smitty1e wrote:
| Try to give it some, get mod bombed. So it goes.
| lima wrote:
| You got downvoted the boring way.
| iamcreasy wrote:
| I think what this application does add more context than
| its tech stack.
| 01100011 wrote:
| Too bad. Phabricator was a great tool for handling various
| aspects of a software project(SCM integration, task tracking,
| messaging, code reviews, etc). I used it on a couple of projects
| and it seemed to work very well.
| ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
| Not familiar with it, but their installation guide is one of the
| best I've ever seen.
| saurik wrote:
| Phabricator had seemed to be the only good product in this space
| when I had looked; what are people even using instead? (I guess
| they just put up with GitHub :/.)
| axk wrote:
| Gerrit is solid: https://www.gerritcodereview.com/
| Jonanin wrote:
| The UI is atrocious, unfortunately.
| [deleted]
| lima wrote:
| Check again - it got a serious makeover recently. It's
| still far from intutive, but so much better than it used to
| be.
|
| It's a power user tool that has a slight learning curve.
| kemayo wrote:
| Gerrit is good, if opinionated in ways that we have to put
| work into onboarding for. That said, it only covers a small
| subset of what Phabricator does -- it's missing the entire
| issue tracker part, most importantly.
| lima wrote:
| Ack! Recently moved from Phabricator to Gerrit and deleting
| Arcanist was a plus.
| geraldcombs wrote:
| It'd be nice if it had a tightly integrated issue tracker and
| CI.
| JoshTriplett wrote:
| Does it still desperately want you to squash all your
| patches, or does it do a good job of handling an ordered
| stack of patches these days?
| lima wrote:
| It does an excellent job handling stacks! You may be
| mistaking it for Phabricator, which defaults to squashing.
| kemayo wrote:
| I suspect that JoshTriplett is complaining about the
| `amend` workflow required to update a single gerrit patch
| with revisions.
|
| If you're used to the GitHub pull request style, you'd be
| more likely to make a small commit and add it to the
| request. In gerrit that approach results in a separate
| patch for review, which isn't what such a person would
| want.
|
| (Personally, I've come to appreciate gerrit's model for
| strongly encouraging building patches that are
| encapsulated single-reviewable-changes, in a way that
| lends itself to never having a commit that'd break the
| build if you landed on it e.g. during a git bisect....
| But it's also something that surprises people who've not
| used gerrit before, in my experience.)
| Hamuko wrote:
| Most of the stuff that Phabricator was used at our company is
| now done in (self-hosted) Gitlab. I think the only thing that's
| still actively there is credential management, and I can only
| imagine there are better solutions for that than Phabricator.
| woleium wrote:
| gitlab is good and can still be self hosted
| codeapprove wrote:
| That's a shame, heard only good things about those tools.
|
| Shameless but timely plug: I'm building a much better code review
| tool for teams on GitHub. Check out https://codeapprove.com and
| if you're interested to hear more just email me (sam at habosa
| dot com).
| lima wrote:
| Reviewable is another similar review improvement tool for
| GitHub: https://reviewable.io
|
| ...or just use Gerrit[1], which can do everything these do out
| of the box, and has a much nicer workflow than GitHub once you
| got over the learning curve.
|
| [1]: https://www.gerritcodereview.com
| carwyn wrote:
| Slightly more here:
| https://secure.phabricator.com/w/changelog/2021.22/
|
| Shame, the code review was good and one of the few that supported
| task dependencies :(
| ZuLuuuuuu wrote:
| Is there a summary of why this product is not maintained anymore?
| From time to time I would hear about Phabricator, but I didn't
| know that the project was in trouble.
| woleium wrote:
| I'd guess it's not profitable for them?
| abbe98 wrote:
| I always had a good experience with Phabricator, especially its
| customization/dashboards.
|
| Wikimedia still uses it[1].
|
| [1]: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/
| nine_k wrote:
| To clarify: this applies not just to phabricator-dot-com, but
| Phabricator the software:
| https://github.com/phacility/phabricator/commit/9ceb66453501...
|
| This is unexpected. Many companies, among them as well-resourced
| as Facebook, use Phabricator. I wonder if it will be forked soon
| by some party interested in keeping it around. OTOH it looks like
| none such party exists, because the public sources have not been
| updated literally for years. Maybe everyone interested just runs
| their private fork :(
|
| Phabricator should be reasonably easy to self-host anyway.
| iamcreasy wrote:
| I think Blender and KDE uses Phabricator as well.
| solarkraft wrote:
| KDE has been in the process switching away (to Gitlab) for a
| while.
| rachelbythebay wrote:
| FB's phabricator went its own way long ago. I imagine this has
| exactly zero impact on their day to day.
|
| Put it this way: the last time I saw it, they still had the
| "clowncopterize" button. Try finding that anywhere else.
| lima wrote:
| > _This is unexpected._
|
| They've been down to only one developer (Evan himself) for a
| while. Still sad :(
|
| https://secure.phabricator.com/differential/query/all/
| andrewmcwatters wrote:
| Man, in my opinion, in software, things don't really get started
| until after surviving for about 10 years or so. Everything else
| is fleeting.
|
| Quite nice to see it saw 11 years, though.
| bogota wrote:
| I got to meet evan once when i was in SF. Phabricator was one of
| a few pieces of software that actually brought me joy when using.
| I will always miss the diff review process now that my current
| company is moving from phabricator to github and i'll be unlikely
| to ever use it at a company again with this update.
|
| Thanks Evan for all the work you have put in over the years. Some
| of my biggest learnings as an engineer have been from reading and
| interacting with you on the phabricator secure server and reading
| your code when extending phab for companies.
| kludgeoldfart wrote:
| Phuck
| evilelectron wrote:
| Sad news indeed :(
| ferdowsi wrote:
| Whoa. Really, really disappointed about this. The Phabricator
| approach to reviews and merges was incredibly impactful on a
| previous team. It encouraged discipline and an informative main
| branch that was always linked to reviews, and free of commits
| like "fixing lint errors" and "actually fix lint errors, for
| real".
| https://secure.phabricator.com/book/phabflavor/article/recom...
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| The task management system isn't bad either, considering how weak
| Github's is and how bloated JIRA is.
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