[HN Gopher] Amazon devices will soon automatically share your In...
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Amazon devices will soon automatically share your Internet with
neighbors
Author : throwaway888abc
Score : 55 points
Date : 2021-05-29 20:39 UTC (2 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (arstechnica.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (arstechnica.com)
| blumomo wrote:
| Welcome to their world where it's not you owning "your" devices,
| but the mega corps.
|
| Klaus Schwab, head of "World Economic Forum" and author of "The
| Great Reset" [0]: "You'll own nothing and you will be happy" [1]
|
| [0] https://www.amazon.com/COVID-19-Great-Reset-Klaus-
| Schwab/dp/...
|
| [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEQcyIGH_vQ
| djs070 wrote:
| That video is dreadful. How can the producer equate owning
| nothing with "socialism, communism and totalitarianism" when
| this is the effect that we're seeing under capitalism?
| coldcode wrote:
| Good thing I don't have any. I don't trust Amazon to not use this
| to enable even more dominance of retail. It's like trusting
| Google to not collect your data in order to sell you even more
| ads. It's like telling Facebook, well, anything, because it all
| goes to a huge pile of data they can sell.
| whoknowswhat11 wrote:
| Is it clear this really shares all your internet? The initial
| plans were for a trickle - 100kbs or so. I mention this as I'm on
| 1Gbps, so this would be 0.0001 or so of my bandwidth as far as I
| can tell.
|
| In terms of privacy - my current traffic is monitored by my ISP
| (and data is sold). They say that this does even more but what -
| a lot of these systems actually encrypt and hide from ISP.
| pseudosavant wrote:
| It specifically states that there is an 80kbps max between a
| Sidewalk bridge and Amazon's servers, and a 500MB/month data
| cap.
| rolph wrote:
| with 80k you can connect to a torrentswarm and seed
| out[slowly] what? topsite pr0n, perhaps something noone ever
| wants to be accused of seeding so use nieghbours bandwidth
| unicornfinder wrote:
| Indeed, which honestly makes this a bit of a non-story in my
| opinion. A bit of a misleading headline.
| jnsie wrote:
| Surely Amazon has no right to do this without explicit consent?
| throwawayboise wrote:
| Send them a bill for the bandwidth used, and they sue them for
| nonpayment.
| trav4225 wrote:
| This also seems like it would violate ToS for some ISPs.
| perihelions wrote:
| But Amazon isn't a party to that ToS, and the user hasn't taken
| any positive action because Amazon never asked for their
| consent. (?)
|
| How _does_ this work?
| trav4225 wrote:
| I suspect a lawyer will say "ignorance is not innocence". :)
| [deleted]
| cma wrote:
| > or any other Amazon device
|
| Does this mean wifi kindle? And you have to install the Alexa app
| to opt out and can't opt out through your browser or you kindle
| itself?
| cs702 wrote:
| Also, does it include Amazon fire TV sticks?
| Tempest1981 wrote:
| I found a list here. Ring + Echo it appears:
|
| https://support.ring.com/hc/en-us/articles/360032492292-Side...
| lsllc wrote:
| Previous discussion:
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27115809
| rolph wrote:
| playing devils advocate, and to put it mildly, there are some
| neighbours that are not exactly the kind of people i want to have
| in my network or on my WAN.
|
| I hope amazon has some way of making sure that the person being
| raided searched, and interrogated is the person actually guilty
| of the crime, and some way of clearing up spoofing or proxying.
| armchairhacker wrote:
| Doesn't Xfinity do the same thing with xfinitywifi?
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