[HN Gopher] Just designed the most evil UI component: x box - th...
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Just designed the most evil UI component: x box - the inverse of
the check box
Author : giuliomagnifico
Score : 57 points
Date : 2021-05-29 17:31 UTC (5 hours ago)
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| networkid wrote:
| Will not work in Sweden as "x" means the same as "v" on the paper
| [deleted]
| Animats wrote:
| I've seen that for small icons. The "off" state is the icon for
| the thing, and the "on" state is something like two vertical
| bars, regardless of what was turned on.
|
| He also wrote:
|
| _" Lol imagine if files and folders got heavier the bigger they
| get"_
|
| Someone did that in the early Mac days, as the "Sonic Finder".
| Everything the use did made a sound. Moving files produced a
| "thump" sound, with a deeper "thump" for larger objects.
|
| Few people left that feature turned on.
| eatonphil wrote:
| I've been enjoying watching Neil's hacks a lot. Incredibly
| creative ways of messing with Mac display and libraries. I
| encourage folks to scroll through his Twitter gifs for some great
| hacks.
|
| Edit: I don't even know if they're all real or are just effects
| but either way they are all incredibly creative.
| etiam wrote:
| Segmentation for professional manipulators who like their job
| with a challenge...
| gumby wrote:
| I think this would now be illegal in California...but enforcement
| would be tough.
| mineOther wrote:
| If it were truly inverse, the text should also be inverted, for
| example "I Opt Out Of Emails." And it should start Xed, so that
| enabling it is like closing the Off. Then I would be fine with
| it.
| 1_player wrote:
| I've seen this pattern in the wild already. IIRC my bank
| (Barclays UK) has a section in their marketing email preferences
| where you need to check the box IF you don't want to receive any
| marketing^Hspam email. People notoriously hate to read, and even
| grandmas have learned the lesson never to check any box at the
| end of any form, and this is how they still get you.
|
| It's atrocious and there should be legal consequences to whoever
| adopts or implements dark patterns like these.
| jlokier wrote:
| I've seen worse. Two marketing options buried at the end of a
| form. One option you have to tick to opt-out, the other you
| have to untick to opt-out.
|
| Both written in a confusing way, and you get your dara shard
| with third parties and marketing of some kind if you get either
| wrong.
| bellyfullofbac wrote:
| On the topic of hating to read, it reminds me when I bought my
| TV, the online store would only sell it on credit, with 0%
| interest. The paperwork came in the mail with a free credit
| card too. The sign up form (from some bank, not the store
| itself) had 2 signature fields, but the 2nd field was to sign
| up for insurance tied to the card. I looked it up online and
| there were so many mad reviews of this bank from people who
| signed the 2nd field and claimed they got scammed...
| Rapzid wrote:
| This is different. The text say yes, but the x says no.
| throwawayboise wrote:
| You see this a lot in the RT ticket system[1]. For example, when
| adding a reply to a ticket, emails are sent to a set of people by
| default. The addreses are listed, with checkboxes, and a
| parenthetical _Check boxes to disable notifications to the listed
| recipients_
|
| [1] https://bestpractical.com/request-tracker
| asimpletune wrote:
| Wow this thing is such an abomination that about half the
| commentators in the original thread literally are taking home the
| opposite message (ie 'x' to confirm vs checkmark).
| frosted-flakes wrote:
| I don't know, if it was a paper checkbox I would check it with
| a cross (x). Like on an election ballot. Is the X just a
| stylistic change or is it supposed to mean something different
| than an unstyled checkbox?
| tym0 wrote:
| The red X means you _don't_ want what you ticked.
| ______- wrote:
| I always found that frustrating. In some Windows apps, there is a
| toggle switch with words like: 'Disable {this}' and the toggle is
| turned off by default. So which is it? Enable or disable? One
| trick I learned is that if there's a double negative in a user
| interface, then that means a positive. My computer science course
| that involved learning about logic gates helps me out in these
| situations.
| axaxs wrote:
| Yeah, toggle switches for some reason are always infuriating. I
| particularly hate the ones with text inside. It appears ticked,
| but says 'Disable'...wait is it disabled or telling me to click
| to disable. I much prefer radio buttons.
| taeric wrote:
| There is a similar pattern in programming where some folks
| insist on Boolean variables.
| cesarb wrote:
| Often found in Group Policy settings, as explained by Raymond
| Chen:
| https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20110606-00/?p=10...
| orangepanda wrote:
| Seen this pattern in tracking consent popups - active state is
| red, making you think it's disabled.
| superasn wrote:
| For people looking for more, this sub-reddit(1) is just filled
| with such bad/evil UI components, though most of them are more
| bad than evil.
|
| https://www.reddit.com/r/badUIbattles/
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