[HN Gopher] Hacking the Silvercrest (Lidl) Smart Home Gateway
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Hacking the Silvercrest (Lidl) Smart Home Gateway
Author : homarp
Score : 64 points
Date : 2021-05-29 16:13 UTC (6 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (paulbanks.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (paulbanks.org)
| londons_explore wrote:
| > The server has some brute force protection whereby failed
| logins will cause the device to stop this server for an
| increasing amount of time. The device has to be left switched on
| for the anti-brute force timer to expire because the failure
| counter is stored persistently in the flash.
|
| Excellent! This is the way security should be done if you have to
| use a password like here.
|
| Too many devices either don't have brute force detection, or
| don't persist their intervals meaning a reboot gives you new
| attempts.
| mongol wrote:
| I think the Lidl tools brands are the best value for money you
| can buy, in a lower price segment. There are other brands that
| are best vale for money in higher price segments, but for tools
| you only use occasionally, I think Lidl is on top.
| gorbypark wrote:
| I have a few of their bulbs (decent) and motion sensors (junk)
| running on Home Assistant on an RPi. Might have to pick one of
| these up to play around with.
| aritmo wrote:
| In Spain it is 17.99EUR - https://www.lidl.es/es/central-
| domotica-zigbee-smart-home/p1...
| londons_explore wrote:
| I'm surprised this device has so many electronics in it...
|
| Considering it is basically an ethernet<=>Zigbee bridge, and
| never needs to send more than a few bytes at a time, I would have
| designed it with a Wifi ESP8266 connected to a zigbee module.
|
| With that setup you could probably cut the retail price in half,
| which has to be important for a device nobody really wants
| (People get excited about their new smart bulbs... Nobody cares
| about the pesky gateway device)
| Denvercoder9 wrote:
| Putting extra hardware in there to allow it to run Linux is
| probably less expensive than the savings from being able to
| target Linux for your software.
| Moosdijk wrote:
| https://www.lidl.de/de/silvercrest-gateway-drahtloses-verbin...
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| 25 euros at Lidl de
| everyone wrote:
| Is there any reason why one sees so many black PCBs nowadays,
| instead of the 'normal' green? Is it simply fashion? Or is there
| a new cheaper / better black material being used?
|
| ..
|
| I definitely dont like the look of it.. Black chips on a black
| background.. makes the board harder to 'read' at a glance imo.
|
| Edit: Answered my own question.. https://www.quick-pcba.com/pcb-
| news/questions-about-black-pc...
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| It is simply fashion + this : Anti-plagiarism. Because the traces
| of black PCB are difficult to distinguish with the naked eye.
|
| Also seems there are some disadvantages of not using green.
| clairity wrote:
| with this, hopefully we are one step closer to a consumer retail
| home assistant box that users can deploy locally without the
| cloud integration that every company is in a frenzy to lock you
| in to.
| andylynch wrote:
| Hass.io already sells their blue box (https://www.home-
| assistant.io/blue) but an rpi works nicely too. The Lidl
| gateways and similar zigbee hubs aren't really necessary in a
| hass.io setup once you plug in a (pretty cheap) USB zigbee
| stick.
| clairity wrote:
| that's also a good step forward, but with all due respect to
| hass, it's not a consumer retail brand (yet?). ideally, we'd
| get a little box like an apple tv/airport express where you
| plug it in, it finds all the zigbee (and thread) devices in
| range, and then let's you validate and configure those by
| walking around and pointing your phone/tablet camera at each
| one (hopefully validated via uwb/nfc rather than qr code).
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