[HN Gopher] Fujitsu BS2000 Operating System Manuals
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Fujitsu BS2000 Operating System Manuals
Author : throwawaybutwhy
Score : 63 points
Date : 2021-05-23 09:12 UTC (13 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (bs2manuals.ts.fujitsu.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (bs2manuals.ts.fujitsu.com)
| gjvc wrote:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BS2000
| mmackh wrote:
| Initial release 1975; 46 years ago Latest release 11.0 / 2017; 4
| years ago
|
| So we're already up to version 11.0, whilst FB Messenger for
| example is at 313.0
| unixhero wrote:
| German structured approach versus unicorn release management.
| tannhaeuser wrote:
| BS = _Betriebssystem_ = operating system, ie not what you might
| think it means ;)
| merlinscholz wrote:
| Except in this case it stands for Business Server ;)
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BS2000
| tannhaeuser wrote:
| I'd like to believe that (though Business Server doesn't even
| have the excuse of being in German language) but I can't find
| anything about that term on the linked Wikipedia page.
| merlinscholz wrote:
| Check the BS2000 logo in the top right:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BS2000#/media/File:BS2000.png
| throw0101a wrote:
| I often have the same problem with POS = point of sale. Another
| term often comes to mind.
| jhgb wrote:
| But "Our POS terminals are powered by Fujitsu's BS" is such a
| wonderful sentence...
| cptnapalm wrote:
| Would make for some amusing troubleshooting videos: "So
| what do you do when having problems with your BS POS?"
| cptnapalm wrote:
| BS2000 is the result of corporate espionage. Fujitsu, Hitachi
| (VOS3) and even Japanese government officials were in on it. They
| stole the source code to IBM's MVS operating system.
| https://fas.org/irp/congress/1989_cr/h890712-japan.htm
| dirkt wrote:
| If Japanese companies stole the source code, then why was
| BS2000 developed by Siemens (a German company) from 1970 on
| [1], with Siemens-Fujitsu taking only over in 2000, 11 years
| after the date in your link?
|
| And yes, the BS2000 uses the /360 ISA, but so did a few other
| imitators of IBM. And copying an ISA is widespread, and not
| restricted to the /360.
|
| [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BS2000
| [deleted]
| wyclif wrote:
| Which of these do we think are the most useful manuals today?
| unixhero wrote:
| That url contains an index with a very neat way of organising and
| curating the different sections of a mainframe/super computing
| operating system.
|
| A big win would be getting Postgresql, Python and NodeJs ported.
| And midnight commander.
| gjvc wrote:
| https://www.fujitsu.com/global/Images/FUJITSU_Enterprise_Pos...
| unixhero wrote:
| Cool, there it is!
|
| It is super awesome to have briefs like this. Imagine having
| it for all major packages in Linux.
|
| I guess it could be synthesized with fetches from Wikipedia.
| johndoe0815 wrote:
| The BS2000 series is fascinating since Fujitsu-Siemens made the
| transition from S370-compatible hardware over MIPS- (Siemens also
| produced a series of MIPS-based workstations in the 1990s) and
| SPARC-based systems (based on Fujitsu SPARC silicon) to x86-64
| today, staying binary compatible (using emulation/binary
| translation) all the way.
| ChuckNorris89 wrote:
| Siemens used to make lots of computing hardware like RF modems,
| MIPS processors, DRAM, even their own custom design CPU
| architecture (Tri-Core) for use in automotive and such.
|
| Some of them still live on today in various spin-offs like Tri-
| Core is now part of Infineon, DRAM used to be Qimonda which
| went under and part of the RF modem division is now Apple.
| LargoLasskhyfv wrote:
| I had swiss made EDO-Ram with insane(low) latencies from
| Siemens. Sixteen MEGABYTES of it! Looooong before Quimonda
| ;-)
| sdfjkl wrote:
| They even made one of the few Windows NT on MIPS
| workstations. The RM 300 could run either SINIX (a Unix
| variant) or Windows NT/MIPS.
|
| http://www.katalog.iser.fau.de/index.php?ort_id=322&inventar.
| ..
| johndoe0815 wrote:
| and Linux (https://www.linuxsecrets.com/linux-mips-
| wiki/RM_200.html).
|
| SINIX and Linux used the R4000 in big endian mode, whereas
| NT was running in little endian. You had to flash a
| different firmware to switch between the systems...
| LargoLasskhyfv wrote:
| You know? I had to work with the Siemens Mipsen(RM400/600 with
| Sinix/Reliant Unix) for some time. They were built like a tank,
| with _massive_ cases, and usually almost silent because of
| that.
|
| Thinking about that now, they could have been featured in some
| post-apocalyptic game like Fallout, or similar :-)
|
| Anyways, the mainboard was from Silicon Graphics(said so on the
| board, made me smile at the time), and they had a different
| firmware/bootloader and usually lacked the graphics option,
| apart from a simple framebuffer.
| johndoe0815 wrote:
| Siemens also sold relabeled R3000/R4000 Indigos (RW3xx/4xx),
| we had a number of these donated to our student Unix
| workgroup by a local company back in the 90s. These machines
| ran IRIX instead of SINIX, of course.
| skissane wrote:
| I wish they had a hobbyist program.
| criddell wrote:
| Even if there isn't an official program, contact them and ask.
| If you reach the right person there's a good chance they will
| do what they can to help you out.
| cptnapalm wrote:
| Either Fujitsu or Hitachi's VOS3. Amdahl's OSes seem to have
| disappeared off the earth. There's just no good, legal
| mainframe OSes available for potential enthusiasts.
| xeeeeeeeeeeenu wrote:
| Unisys does have a hobbyist program:
|
| MCP: https://www.unisys.com/offerings/clearpath-
| forward/clearpath...
|
| OS 2200: https://www.unisys.com/offerings/clearpath-
| forward/clearpath...
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