[HN Gopher] Canada declares plastics toxic, paving the way for r...
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       Canada declares plastics toxic, paving the way for restrictions
        
       Author : robin_reala
       Score  : 60 points
       Date   : 2021-05-21 22:31 UTC (28 minutes ago)
        
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       | dataflow wrote:
       | It's such a pleasant surprise to me how effectively and quickly
       | people have become concerned about this issue. The recent WWF
       | report came out less than 2 years ago [1]. Microplastics were
       | obviously known for a long time, but that's when conversations
       | about microplastics re-ignited. And now we see an entire country
       | declaring plastics toxic and restricting them. If you'd asked me
       | an hour ago, I'd have predicted it'd take at least another decade
       | before concern about this would spread widely enough to prompt a
       | national policy shift. Great to see that raising public awareness
       | can actually do something!
       | 
       | [1] https://wwf.panda.org/?348371/Could-you-be-eating-a-
       | credit-c...
        
       | aussieguy1234 wrote:
       | Many people might think something as massive as the ocean is
       | basically unlimited and that there's no way us humans could screw
       | it up.
       | 
       | Not true. Take a sample of seawater from almost anywhere right
       | now and you'll find microplastics. Something like 80% of the
       | world's fish stocks are also gone from overfishing.
        
       | maxqin1 wrote:
       | The focus here is on the environment. However, plastic is linked
       | to many health issues as well.
        
         | hirundo wrote:
         | True. Like dihydrogen monoxide. But a cost/benefit analysis is
         | appropriate. These dangerous chemicals have significant
         | benefits too.
        
           | gogopuppygogo wrote:
           | That penn and teller episode with the petition for removing
           | dihydrogen monoxide from schools was fantastic.
           | 
           | https://youtu.be/zVxypRWZODQ
        
       | version_five wrote:
       | The canadian government is big into the business of making these
       | kind of "declarations" these days, so our PM can demonstrate to
       | everyone how progressive he is.
       | 
       | Although I don't think Mother Jones is a legitimate news source,
       | so would be careful about taking anything in the article at face
       | value.
        
         | bsder wrote:
         | > Although I don't think Mother Jones is a legitimate news
         | source
         | 
         | I'm calling this out.
         | 
         | Does Mother Jones have an _agenda_? Absolutely.
         | 
         | However, unlike some "news" sources, their reporting of _actual
         | facts_ is generally correct.
        
         | Pfhreak wrote:
         | Most progressive folks I know are pretty disillusioned with the
         | Canadian PM for being a Liberal and not at all a Leftist. His
         | treatment of indigenous people in particular is something
         | they've repeatedly pointed out as glaringly terrible.
        
         | jimbob45 wrote:
         | Why do you find Mother Jones to be an illegitimate news source?
        
         | 908B64B197 wrote:
         | > so our PM can demonstrate to everyone how progressive he is.
         | 
         | Maybe he should focus on providing vaccines instead (Canada's
         | vaccination rate sits at barely 4% while the US is at 38%) [0]
         | and stop pushing pipelines to export some of the most
         | environmentally destructive oil on the planet [1].
         | 
         | [0] https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-
         | vaccina...
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         | [1] https://news.yahoo.com/trudeau-stresses-disappointment-
         | keyst...
        
       | Pfhreak wrote:
       | Great. Regulation and reduction of plastic production is long
       | overdue.
       | 
       | There are some places where it makes sense to use plastic, but
       | we're far, far overproducing the stuff because it's convenient.
       | 
       | It's fantastically difficult to recycle in practice, burning it
       | produces toxic smoke and carbon emissions, and putting it into
       | the waste stream results in a bunch of it getting dropped on the
       | sides of roadways.
        
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       | bluenose69 wrote:
       | Related: https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1897203267988 holds an
       | interview on the topic by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.
        
       | karaterobot wrote:
       | If there are restrictions, I hope they target major microplastic
       | sources like tires and textiles, rather than easily scapegoated
       | but very minor sources, like plastic bags and drinking straws.
       | Based on precedent, I am not holding my breath, but I hope so.
        
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