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       Show HN: Vandal - an alternate navigator to Wayback Machine
        
       Author : vigneshanand
       Score  : 82 points
       Date   : 2021-05-16 12:22 UTC (10 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (vegetableman.github.io)
 (TXT) w3m dump (vegetableman.github.io)
        
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       | sanqui wrote:
       | This looks great! Would be nice to have a way to see the source
       | collection (e.g. "Save Page Now" or ArchiveBot) for a given
       | capture.
        
         | vigneshanand wrote:
         | Thanks for checking out, sanqui! That's an interesting use
         | case, am curious as to why is that information useful for you?
        
           | toomuchtodo wrote:
           | Data provenance. If it came from Save Page Now, the Internet
           | Archive archived it. If it came from ArchiveBot, ArchiveTeam
           | archived it.
        
             | vigneshanand wrote:
             | Makes sense . I will dig in to this further. Am sure
             | wayback provides this detail somewhere in it's api.
        
               | toomuchtodo wrote:
               | Some api docs here that aren't easy to find: https://docs
               | .google.com/document/d/1Nsv52MvSjbLb2PCpHlat0gkz...
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               | (yes, this is official documentation)
        
       | baal80spam wrote:
       | This looks cool but I'm always reluctant to install ANY browser
       | addons that "can read and change all your data on the websites
       | you visit".
       | 
       | I'll keep in mind this addon exists, though.
        
         | unicornporn wrote:
         | I'm mostly fine with those permissions as long as it's a
         | recommended extension[1]. Otherwise: no, never. Bait and switch
         | is _real_.
         | 
         | [1] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/recommended-
         | extensions-...
        
         | wintermutestwin wrote:
         | It's ironic that all the addons that I use to increase my
         | privacy require full access to read my web browsing data: HTTPS
         | Everywhere, uBlock Origin, Firefox Multi-Account Containers,
         | etc.
        
         | vigneshanand wrote:
         | I understand. It sounds awful. The use-case here being the
         | built-in browser requires host permissions to all url's for
         | navigation purposes. Removing it causing access issues when
         | navigating to a another page through a link within the webpage.
        
           | pvg wrote:
           | Wouldn't it be easier (if a little less slick-looking) to
           | hang the date selection UI off an extension bar button rather
           | than putting it into the actual web page? Then that
           | permission could potentially be dropped.
        
             | vigneshanand wrote:
             | That would indeed work. But the utility of Vandal is to not
             | just support navigation but also to present an alterative
             | vision for time-travel :D.
        
       | myself248 wrote:
       | I would love a way to skip the selection of a hyper-specific date
       | and time. Most of the time I really do not care whether I'm
       | looking at the page as it existed on March 18th 2006 at 9:13am,
       | or April 21st 2006 at 7:44pm.
       | 
       | I just want "take me to 2006". One click. Where in 2006 doesn't
       | matter, just do something for me, it's probably the right thing.
       | 
       | If I need to get into more detail, okay, THEN let me pull open a
       | more specific capture picker.
        
         | vigneshanand wrote:
         | Most of the controls in Vandal are designed to allow quick
         | navigation to specific snapshots. But I do see a use case for a
         | feature like "jump to year" .
        
         | unicornporn wrote:
         | You will like this:
         | 
         | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/view-page-arc...
        
         | solarkraft wrote:
         | Very much so. Usability is not great across archive.org (it has
         | tons of gems, but they're hard to find organically). My small
         | recurring donation has the explicit goal of improving it, but
         | it looks like that hasn't happened yet.
         | 
         | The greatest Archive of the Internet (and perhaps humanity)
         | deserves a better UI.
        
       | beefman wrote:
       | Named after Vandal Savage - cool!
        
         | vigneshanand wrote:
         | yes. haha!
        
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