[HN Gopher] Herdwicks: The 'smiley' sheep that shaped the Lake D...
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       Herdwicks: The 'smiley' sheep that shaped the Lake District
        
       Author : bananapear
       Score  : 33 points
       Date   : 2021-05-16 08:37 UTC (14 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.bbc.co.uk)
        
       | mellosouls wrote:
       | Perhaps the original has changed since, but surely we need
       | 'smiley' in the headline? Outrageous editorialising. :)
        
       | frereubu wrote:
       | This is the Twitter account for a shepherd on Twitter whose flock
       | is made up of Herdwicks: https://twitter.com/herdyshepherd1 Every
       | time I visit his timeline I end up in a farming Twitter scroll
       | trance.
        
         | nkurz wrote:
         | For those looking for a longer form than Twitter, his first
         | book is great: The Shepherd's Life: Modern Dispatches from an
         | Ancient Landscape (https://www.amazon.com/Shepherds-Life-
         | Dispatches-Ancient-Lan...).
         | 
         | Rebanks also has a new one out last year, but I haven't read it
         | yet: English Pastoral (https://www.amazon.com/English-
         | Pastoral/dp/0241245729). Anyone have opinions?
        
           | railton wrote:
           | I've read both and think English Pastoral is marginally
           | better.
           | 
           | Less sheep, more general farming stuff and stronger narrative
           | of old-school farming with his grandfather to modern
           | industrialised then to present where he's doing more
           | regenerative agriculture.
           | 
           | You can get a signed copy from his local Lake District
           | bookshop btw:
           | https://www.samreadbooks.co.uk/product/EnglishPastoral/2244
        
       | publicola1990 wrote:
       | At last a somewhat sane headline from BBC. By their usual
       | practice in recent times it would be patterned something like:
       | 'The unknown mystery animal that shaped the Lake District'.
        
         | rwnspace wrote:
         | And yet here I was, going to the comments first (as is
         | tradition), wondering whether Herdwicks is an individual sheep
         | with the power to terraform, or a breed of some mild historical
         | significance.
        
           | bloat wrote:
           | Well, I guess 'terraforming' is an overstatement, but hill
           | farming in general and the sheep specifically have had a
           | profound effect on the landscape. This link is to a polemic,
           | but it also contains plenty of references.
           | https://www.monbiot.com/2013/05/30/sheepwrecked/
        
             | youngtaff wrote:
             | Considering how much damage sheep do to the landscape and
             | how unprofitable sheep farming, I think we'd be off paying
             | sheep farmers to re-wild the hills
        
               | cmrdporcupine wrote:
               | Yep I've been thinking about adding some little babydoll
               | southdown sheep here to my hobby farm -- mostly because
               | they're cute but also so I don't have to mow as much and
               | to help weed the vineyard and make some manure for the
               | garden and to give my border collie something to do --
               | and what I've noticed is that almost everyone keeping
               | sheep around here is doing it for the same kinds of
               | reasons. They're cute. Keeping sheep gives that pastoral
               | feel. (As my teen daughter would say ... It's cottage-
               | core). It's something their family did. Etc. Almost
               | nobody is doing it because it's profitable.
               | 
               | At least around here (southern Ontario) it wouldn't be an
               | environmentally problematic thing, but there are
               | definitely places in the world where the land _and_
               | economics would be much better off without ruminants and
               | returned to a natural state.
        
             | bitwize wrote:
             | I've heard of goats used for "terraforming". Several U.S.
             | states have used them to remove invasive plant species (by
             | eating them, because goat).
        
       | Doctor_Fegg wrote:
       | There's the old story about a supply teacher coming in to teach a
       | reception class in a Lake District primary school for the
       | morning.
       | 
       | The teacher decides to do some literacy work and points to a
       | picture of a sheep on the wall. "Now, class, can anyone tell me
       | what this is? It begins with 'S'."
       | 
       | Silence from the class.
       | 
       | "Anyone? Maybe you've seen them in the fields?"
       | 
       | Still nothing. She decides to work with one particular kid who
       | looks quite exercised by the whole thing.
       | 
       | "Maisie, have you ever seen one of these before?"
       | 
       | Maisie replies exasperatedly: "But miss, Herdwick begins with a
       | H!"
        
         | Normal_gaussian wrote:
         | This made me laugh. It brings together the absurdities I've
         | noticed going back home over the years.
         | 
         | I could seriously see this playing out with Ewe (locally
         | pronounced yow) over Herdwick! Particularly with some of the
         | valley primaries which are just a handful of farming kids.
        
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