[HN Gopher] FTC Study Confirms Everything 'Right to Repair' Advo...
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       FTC Study Confirms Everything 'Right to Repair' Advocates Have Been
       Saying
        
       Author : miles
       Score  : 17 points
       Date   : 2021-05-15 19:07 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.techdirt.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.techdirt.com)
        
       | elmerfud wrote:
       | Too little too late. I'm not sure that it's going to undo the
       | damage to the publics view of ownership and repair rights
       | perception that has already been destroyed.
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       | I believe this will just push us more in to the non-ownership
       | society. You can no longer buy your phone you can only
       | lease/license it. That agreement prohibits third party repair.
       | 
       | If the FTC was serious about correcting this there would be very
       | public investigations and fines against these companies.
       | Specifically they should target Tesla as their abuses fly in the
       | face of long established understanding of car repair. Mostly it
       | just gets ignored because people are primed to no longer believe
       | they own anything.
        
         | rsj_hn wrote:
         | The FTC isn't able to mandate that manufacturers support a
         | third party supply chain for parts or release repair
         | documentation - perhaps in the EU that could be done with a
         | bureaucracy but in the U.S. it would require an act of
         | Congress. These types of studies serve to provide talking
         | points in debates over such legislation. So it's a net positive
         | for the right to repair movement but not any kind of victory.
         | Think of it as stocking up ammunition for a battle.
        
       | whoknowswhat11 wrote:
       | The "right to repair" folks do seem somewhat oblivious to
       | security / scam concerns.
       | 
       | Since I've had first hand experience of supposedly genuine or
       | same OEM apple replacement batteries being absolutely anything
       | BUT genuine or similar spec (ie, total trash) the screams of
       | these right to repair folks when apple alerts the user to a non-
       | apple battery ring pretty damn hollow.
       | 
       | I'm convinced there was an organized used iphone resale setup
       | where folks would cram these crap batteries in and resell the
       | phone showing it had great battery life - when a bit later you
       | were screwed.
       | 
       | This is just once example. I'm aware that users would buy phones,
       | strip parts, then file applecare claims. Sure, activation lock
       | meant the phones wouldn't work, but then they could take
       | fingerprint sensors etc and link them to new devices. Cue up the
       | cries again if apple does any notification that you are linking
       | in non-apple or grey channel parts.
       | 
       | Same thing with activation lock itself - lots of complaining
       | about it.
       | 
       | None of this takes into account apples own USERs view. They want
       | activation lock. They WANT a warning that they are being sold a
       | phone with a crap 3rd party battery.
       | 
       | Seriously - make a with a user replaceable battery and memory and
       | upgradeable storage etc. If users want this - they will flock to
       | you.
        
         | rasz wrote:
         | >screams of these right to repair folks when apple alerts the
         | user to a non-apple battery ring pretty damn hollow
         | 
         | you might be oblivious to the fact this Apple Alert is not
         | about fake battery - it also pops up if you insert Genuine
         | battery from another brand new iphone. Battery alert is about
         | Control over the phone user believes to own.
        
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